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  • Don't think so. I think the judge says "I'll accept 8-4". I saw it on Judge John Deed.

  • The judge will always start by directing towards a unanimous verdict. If they've been deliberating a long while (and the foreman says there's a chance of some agreement) then the judge may direct that a 10-2 majority as acceptable.
    They'll always push for unanimous first.

    I've recently been on jury service and one jury had some people who couldn't separate the verdict from the sentence, the other was much better. It depends on the people.

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