Tubeless Tyres -"saying the same things about tubeless tyres over and over again" Hippy read the first f**king post

Malcolm is risk adverse

yep

I dont like being stranded

Better...
https://www.eta.co.uk/2015/03/19/sahmurai-sword-tubeless-bicycle-puncture-repair/

permenant in my expereince. Had one tyre with two worms in it and glue for over 3000km. if it failed I would have patched from the inside. That tyre had two patched from the inside two. I put that tyre through the mill to find out how much abuse they can take. It had a sidewall cut that I fixed too. it did 7000 miles before I retired.

the worm tool comes with the worms and is tiny. My big kit is for the commutor with panniers. One the race bike I carry worms, applicator, CO2 and glue. never needed on the race bike though puncture self heal.

I'm thinking purely from a race situation. TABR is ~4000mi. Can I get through it with a single set of fast tyres? Tubed tyres I used fast rolling ones and swapped half way. If tubeless are a bitch to change I'm not sure I'd want to do this swap using fast tubeless tyres.

Advantages during training rides of tubeless 'outside only' repairs would be not having to get road grit shit all over myself as I do when changing a tube. This is of course assuming I learn to successfully repair these weird tyres...

Worm repairs are in effect permanent. You put the worm on the tip of the tool, jab the tool through the tyre, pull out the tool, then cut off the trailing bits of worm. And the worm just stays there. I currently have a worm in each tyre.

I've got 'normal' Stans in my tyres, and sealing hasn't been as great as I had hoped. For example, in my opinion (albeit subjective), the puncture in my front tyre should have sealed rather than required a worm. However, I have since bought some of the 'race' variety of Stans having heard that it is better for road tyres (although tried it out yet).

It sounds like you use a syringe to add the sealant? I'm guessing it's the Caffelatex one? If so, do you know if it would be compatible with Stan's race sealant? The reason I ask is that I ordered a Stan's syringe only to find that it wasn't compatible with their race sealant so I had to return it. So I'm looking for a different one.

So, just spunked at cycleclinic on IRC pro fusion Xguard whatsits in 28. Some worms, a big bottle caffalatex, and special levers. What am I missing apart from tape? What is this glue everyone's talking about here? Holding back on tape as I don't have rims in my hand to measure ...

There is flexible superglue with bits of rubber. You can use it to help seal cuts and glue the worms in place.

Fixing a puncture on tubeless in heavy rain, is it possible? (it is possible with tubes).

Wiki says...

cyanoacrylate is an acrylic resin that rapidly polymerises in the presence of water (specifically hydroxide ions)

so may actually work faster in heavy rain than on a dry day.

Leaving you with your hands glued to your wheel, standing in the rain.

I'm sure you could walk somewhere to find shelter... with your hands glued to the wheel.

If you watched @cycleclinic video

https://youtu.be/OfJXNQPZbJ0

he actually spits on the superglue to cure it quicker.

this was a tip i suggested on this thread months ago!

I wasn't interested in tubeless some months ago.

These are listed as folding but in the Q&A say that they are not tubeless: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/panaracer-gravel-king-folding-road-tyre/?lang=en&curr=GBP&dest=1&sku=5360689326&kpid=5360689326&utm_source=google&utm_term&utm_campaign=UK_PLA_Components&utm_medium=base&utm_content=mkwid%7CsleiW98g9_dm%7Cpcrid%7C67090789502%7Cpkw%7C%7Cpmt%7C%7Cprd%7C5360689326uk

So possibly a different approach is required.

Or a similar tyre from a different company who don't make you guess?

On panaracer website only the 650b are tubeless in slick: https://www.panaracer.com/lineup/gravel.html

Well they're NFU then, what other tyres can people recommend, around 32c, tan wall, lightly treaded, tubeless?

fusion x-guard and RBCC life is more like 10,000+ km for me on the race bikes on the commutor which has load the rear tyre does around 7000-8000 km. the front tyre on my commutor has nearly 10,000km and the file thread is barley worn. They will do 4000 miles easily unless you are 120kg hippy.

One TCR rider finished on IRC fusion X-guards. She had no issues. I am hoping she will send me a pic of here tyres so I can how new they still are. I think he had to top up with air in bulgaria or romania.

I have mixed selaants before. Stans race sealant is a faff to add as you can't inject it. you can just about drain i into the tyre through the valves but it still clogs. Caffe latex is much better you can inject it. I use a cheap ebay syringe bought loads. little need for fancy inhjectors. Milkit valves though are nice but expensive at least with those you can draw up the sealant into the syringe to see how little you have left.

thanks james it saved me walk once.

No worries, glad it helped