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Haven't been on this thread for a couple of days and it's already talking about hardon and penetration...where have I been??
Btw Matt, I sent Verity and Caren an email (on the isen one) with regards to make sure my frame (number 14) is made for Di2 only (no cable stops) but haven't received any answer/confirmation.
Penetration is much less of an issue with thin walls and tube mitres than blowing through is. It's pretty obvious if you haven't.
Framebuilders group is kicking off at the moment between ti builders over whether fusion passing is beneficial or detrimental. So little social skills so much argon used...