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Again, a nazi that looks like a totally sound bloke. This stuff is getting nightmarish.

The baby in chief just disbanded the councils that CEOs were resigning from en masse anyway
edit and it was fact checked and he lied about it being his decision. The CEOs said fuck this first.

I bet Ivanka occasionally gets bouts of impostor syndrome, after all research shows that it happens regularly to two out of five highly successful people. But of course, just as soon as the thought enters her head she regains her composure and has a quiet chuckle at herself for even contemplating such a silly idea.

did everyone see the Vice docu? scary stuff ..

Was just about to mention the vice doc, v.scary to see and hear the opinions of people who are behind the 'alt-right' websites and propaganda....

Canny choice of putting their most aryan looking female reporter to cover the 'alt-right', I'm sure that was no coincidence, good interviewing is always about putting your subjects at ease...,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAk6szYQ-bM

This and the whole timing of it is horrendous. For balance, however, in pop culture and mainstream media, Trump has been 'shot', crosshairs have been depicted over his head on front pages, 'verified' Twitter folks, along with many, many average-Joe Twitter users, make remarks about his assassination on a regular basis, an effigy of his severed head has been held...

They kinda incite violence and violence is what anti-Trump folks profess to be against.

Has anyone here linked to these occurrences? Furthermore, has anyone here condemned these occurrences? Genuine question.

https://bluelivesmatter.blue/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/india-knight-tweet-assassination-president-trump.jpg

Twitter trolls are not new. What is new is that the leader of the free world is a twitter troll.

Well, have you condemned them? And while we are at it, why don't you go ahead and condemn the far right violence we've posted about on the previous pages. Seeing as it's suddenly necessary that we all stand up and be counted.

Bannon's been talking to the press

https://www.axios.com/bannons-colleagues-disturbed-by-interview-with-left-wing-publication-2473835346.html

(The interview article is linked within)

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/trump-business-advisory-council-to-disband-1502904005

Average I.Q. in Washington DC is going to plummet on September 16th: http://www.metalsucks.net/2017/08/14/pro-trump-rally-set-to-clash-with-juggalo-march-in-washington-d-c-in-september/

Regarding Trumps business and manufacturing councils. its pertinent to note that from his evangelical council not one person has stepped down at all. Business CEO's have more morals than religious figureheads.

While I am not entirely surprised by this I guess it should be caveated with the thought that the business council members had one eye on denouncing and rejecting the nazi's and another on their share prices. the bad PR for companies seen to be siding with Trump at this time could easily kill a company in days.

@starfish&coffee

Oh I condemn it, I think it's awful...as does basically the entire thread. You obviously - or conveniently, both fit - missed the part where I also condemned the CNN train thing and its timing at the very start of my post. Great, engaging reply though, failing to add anything of any worth or acknowledge any of my examples of reciprocated media extremism and imagery (incidentally not one of which you could say a bad word about, before resorting to the deflection, I noticed)

What isn't so prevalent is the same hysteria when the radical left indeed call for him to be killed, when regular depictions of his death are allowed to circulate among media, when 'anti-hate' groups like ANTIFA resort to violence and rioting against anyone and anything they perceive to challenge their actions or their views, when screaming into someone's face constitutes 'discussion', when JK Rowling recently used her platform to flat-out lie about Trump ignoring a disabled child to whip up anger, yet the kid's own mother had to intervene to clarify to her that situation simply didn't happen and was verified by camera footage...

It's a bit rich when one side that gets torn apart and scrutinised so vigorously, is so by an opposing side that is often, itself, just as awful and violent and deceptive, but which postures as the side against anger, against violence, against division and all for tolerance.

the bad PR for companies seen to be siding with Trump at this time could easily kill a company in days

That's obviously an appealing idea - i.e. that being out of step with public opinion on a general matter can bring down a company - but I'm struggling to think of any examples. (Not that I have tried thinking about it particularly hard).

Ratner? Self inflicted though.

Nokia's mobile phone division, although that was also self inflicted.

Shrekeli? Also self inflicted.

Dang. There are some successful people who aren't smart enough to know when to shut the fuck up.

Hey guys, here's a great way to find out your antifascist name - you take your first name and then your second name, put them together and then you have your antifa name.

My point was on a general issue (e.g. the public debate on white supremacy) rather than an issue related to the company itself.

The Ratner fella said his own company's stuff was crap, and with Nokia I assume you're talking about their failure to respond to Apple phones and the Android platform which again is a company-specific point.

So, it's perhaps a bit like Stop Funding Hate which has not led to, for example, the closure of the Daily Mail. So it could be argued that 'guilt by association' is not (yet) sufficient to bring down a company.

Not being on Twitter I wasn't aware this stuff was so prevalent, I basically get my Trump context from this thread, so in that sense it's useful for you to raise it. While it's sickening I don't think hatred towards a specific individual is really comparable to hatred towards broad groups of people. Neither is good, obvs..

The last image I'm pretty sure is a visual response to the "Head of Clinton as Medusa held aloft by Trump as Perseus" image that emerged pre election.

I think you're right. I guess I was more thinking about share prices badly affected by negative PR. United Airlines was probably the most prevalent in recent memory. I think it would need to be a huge scandal in order to completely fold a company but the share price can definitely be hit and hit hard.

Did Subway suffer at all following Jared Fogles conviction? I don't know but it didn't bring the company down. I love me a sub.

The Nokia issue arose from an internal memo, now widely known as the 'burning platform' memo, which basically said to consumers that Nokia phones were crap and they stopped buying them.

Kenneth Frazier not saying anything and staying on the council would not have taken Merck down (currently has the world's second largest diabetes drug by sales on its books). If Frazier didn't make a stand, I would guess that no one else would have and the council would not have been mentioned in this context.