Bikepacking - a viable alternative to racks & panniers

Back when I'd just swum a couple of miles then was riding a century+ before running a marathon functional food carriage exceeded fashion by a long way.

Roswheel seem to have flooded ebay and other places with 8l/10l(not sure which different sellers claim both for the same bag) seatpost bags and also some handlebar mounted drybags with a not bad looking thing they sit in.

http://www.roswheel.com/bicycle-phone-bag/

Half frame bags for commuting without a backpack.
I have 46cm inside top tube length to play with.

I think the restrap ones are either too small or too big so.

1) Alpkit Possum Medium
2) Wildcat Ocelot Medium
3) Apidura MTN medium
4) Porcelain Rocket Partial Framebag Medium

All roughly same price?

I just ordered at Toppeak Midloader 4.5 liter. It's supposed be 46cm long

dont trust GLH for your framebag being safe

Will be emptying it for sure

i meant for the bag not being stolen

Wat?! Rly??

Also, what do you do when you leave your bike and want to take your stuff with you? 46 cm is not that much, wouldn't recommend

its mainly for tote bag, tshirt, rainjacket, foil wrapped lunch on occasion?

I'm going to use mine for extra water capacity. I reckon it will hold a 1.5-2 Liter soft drink bottle for refilling on tour.

also: what would you take instead?

My commutes almost 15km each way now so would really rather not keep backpacking whenever I want to take the road bike

p.a.n.n.i.e.r.s.

talbot dont take no panniers

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/tubus-adapter-set-for-qr-axle-mounting/

just no

I had it on my all city macho man, total bliss. Bike packing bags for daily usage (or maybe even for actual bike packing) are a ball ache.

I see you and I raise:

carradice was on prolly so its ok

blocks amey

no joke

https://www.alpkit.com/products/airlok-xtra-tapered

13L drybag for £21 with just enough strapping to pretend it's a proper seatpack, but not so much that it takes ages to fit and remove.

will try this! thanks!

Where can I buy pls

ask @hp93