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• #15902
Indeed! I ran the Kentmere Horseshoe a couple weeks back, and though the course was probably harder, the weather on the Rydal Round definitely made it pretty gruelling.
And Phil, I'm the exact opposite - I'm crap at going up, but made at least 10 places descending. Even so, my legs were so crap on the up I was still in the back half.
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• #15903
Heh, I was in Goathland the other week, ran a marathon distance I nicked off the LDWA and it was a bit crap, should have nicked that course.
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• #15904
We should do a fell relay, if there is such a thing. I was 5th over the top, 23rd at the bottom!
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• #15905
Oh no!
I know I definitely gained a good few places on the descent and then a good few more by keeping right at Low Pike and doing the 2m drop at the crag - definitely a bit technical tho! -
• #15906
Went to Swains Lane on saturday to start doing some ultra-style hill training for the SHC focusing on descending so Run Down, Walk Up. I've read in a lot of places lately that descending can be worse for DOMS than running uphill which was why I felt it necessary to get stuck in as it'll make up the buk of the miles I run in the race.
The shoes I posted about on the previous page held up well except the left began rubbing on my achilles just enough to start making it sore/break the skin. will tape and persevere for a few more runs and see if it's just an issue of breaking them in, hopefully so as the right shoe fits perfect. But I felt like I ended up finishing the workout a little sooner than I wanted to avoid getting a welt that would stop me running even in other shoes.
in total managed 7.5 laps (cut the final one short to finish at the same time as my friend). but my legs were nicely tired by then. also I had major DOMS 48 hrs later so any more laps and I'd probably be unable to move still.
I've also gone full @Dammit and just ordered myself the Stryd footpod to go with my garmin. Apparently it's much more accurate for distance and pace than gps and provides power meter data for extra strava lols.
oh and my friend who I was running swains with on sat told me about the browser plugin Stavistix for chrome. if you've not got it already well worth installing if stats are your thing.
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• #15908
Good to hear!
First run(+walk) (3.5mi) in about a month yesterday, must be about the 15th run of the year...Adductors and ankles achey today. When I'm not walking, I'm at around 7:30min/mi pace, so I might be able to scrape under my 1:35 pb with some focused training... -
• #15909
Fair play - It looks like a fun run though, irrespective of price - Enjoy!
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• #15910
Have completely fallen out of love with running at the moment, thankfully I've had time trialling to focus on, but went out for a run this weekend as indidnbhave access to a bike and I should have really enjoyed as it was down a section of the Thames path which I love running along, I only finished the run as I didn't really have a choice! not really enjoyed it since the London marathon, have entered Brighton for next year, anyone have any thoughts on run coaches, or any recommendations, is really like to do a sub 3 and right now I could do with some help mentally and to give me confidence to trust in the training!
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• #15911
First run(+walk) (3.5mi) in about a month yesterday
Walking is underrated! I've been very slow getting back into running regularly and have had lots of short runs where I'll walk to take in a view or just because I turned a tight corner and am being lazy etc. It's useful to stop myself from blasting along too fast and burning out and helps bring the HR down too.
I'm in the ballot for London (which I'd completely forgotten about) and am tempted to enter Endure 24 tomorrow when the remaining solo places are made available which would be good encouragement to keep the pace down on most of my runs and just focus on endurance (something I completely failed at last time I trained for London) and hopefully remain injury-free.
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• #15912
See you in Brighton!
One of the Run Dem members is now married to Tom Payn who came 39th overall (elites included) at London Marathon and together they have a business doing running retreats and online coaching..
the guy I was running swains with on saturday is currently using him as a coach and his session was personally tailored and designed to push him to his absolute limits (though he told me he's never boasting about beating all our friends on swains strava segment again as his plan called for the same time in his next set of repeats). I had a look at the plan and it was very detailed and designed to get him to a sub 2:50 i think.
worth having a chat with at the very least.
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• #15913
power meter data
Is this really beneficial in the same way as it can be for cycling? Will it herald the dawn of aero runskinsuits and 'run fitting' clinics to dial in position for maximum gains?
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• #15914
In other news, Ready Steady Mo! is a good read (if you've littl'uns needing fresh stories).
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• #15915
probably not. but from what I've read it's a better metric to train with than heart rate as it has less external factors which can impact it.
I just like seeing numbers go up or down to tell me if i'm getting better or not.
this outlines the potential benefits quite well... https://www.trainingpeaks.com/blog/running-with-power-how-it-works-and-what-it-means/
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• #15916
And finally, Saturday is Marathon day, just noticed at pretty much 13 & 26 miles I'll be crossing stepping stones... not so bad lap one, but for lap two could be fun
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• #15917
Hmm, aero stuff will follow because Pa
the power P of our human engine should be equal to the sum of the power required to overcome the running resistance Pr the air-resistance Pa and the climbing resistance Pc as shown
Wondering how Pr & Pc are derived. More reading required.
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• #15919
Decided I'd start my week with a decent effort - smash in a half marathon over Ilkley Moor. 13.2 miles, 2200 ft of climbing later, I now have a very sore hamstring. Fudge.
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• #15920
:-)
Phase 2: Emperor's New Clothes -
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• #15922
Needs moar vortex dimples.
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• #15923
When I looked into this before (a few years ago), the available options seemed to be unable to differentiate between different running surfaces and treated smooth tarmac and quagmire just the same.
I wonder if/how the newer versions address this?
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• #15924
This is what I wonder about. I'll reluctantly do some tarmac miles and my Garmin will tell me my performance condition is "pro Athlete" but when I'm going really well on the fells it's always "fair".
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• #15925
one of the metrics is leg spring stiffness which may feed into that.
in other other news, I just entered the round reading ultra (50k distance) for this saturday. will try to get home under 9h as a flatter race preparedness test for surrey hills challenge. I did 27 miles just walking in 8.5 hours before spitfire so it's a pretty realistic goal and is a good way of getting more time on my feet without walking around a park on my own all day.
Perfect character building stuff!