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Hess's problem was that he did not know enough about rockets to be valuable enough to the US, and was not as posh as Speer, so didn't get a soft sentence.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-40672629/heavy-rain-brings-long-gill-near-ingleton-back-to-life

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/16/french-national-front-politician-sentenced-to-jail-monkey-slur-christiane-taubira

Compared the Garde des Sceaux (Justice Minister) to a monkey, gets 9 months in jail, 5 years banned from running for office, and €50000 compensation to be paid by her and the FN (Front National), and €30,000 fine for the FN

GOOD

The French are drawing a much clearer line in the sand. Anglosphere 'tacit' racism is often way over that line.

Both are cases of a special kind of evil.

It's not really how people think nowadays, but until WWII I think people accepted wartime decisions as wartime decisions - locking up the instigators of WWII for instigating a war was pretty new territory. Penalising Germany as a state for starting WWI was, in legal terms, pretty new ground as well. Before that it was just raison d'état and the victor's spoils.

Edit to add - okay, people were locked up for starting wars previously, but more as a matter of neutralising them than as some overarching legal principle.

But her emails!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40679075

booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

“She sobbed all the way home and was telling me: 'Dad, I’ve done a bad thing’.

Reckon.

I've always thought BBC links were particularly shit for not having the title in the URL.

But as this is the case, any chance people could post the headline or a brief description as well. Otherwise its just clicking a random link on the internet.

Serves her right for trying to be in a twee American film (IMO)

Spicer's a self-promoting bellend who writes for the Torygraph:

Now, after Lemonadegate, as I contemplate the long school holidays which lay ahead, I’m even more confused about how to entertain our children. Setting up a lemonade stand is obviously far too risky. Perhaps I should just rely on that good old fashioned parenting technique – handing my daughter an iPad so she can spend hours watching a creepy guy opening up toys he has just bought.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/fatherhood/5-year-old-daughter-fined-150-selling-lemonade/

Is that what happens on Ipads? Blimey.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/07/21/elon-musk-claims-approval-30-minute-hyperloop-new-york-washington/

@Lebowski - it's a story about the serial entrepreneur Elon Musk claiming that he has been given permission for a "hyperloop" from NYC to Washington DC - the hyperloop is a really fast train in a vacuum.

There is some controversy over whether he's actually been given permission as some officials have denied it.

Better?

Let me know if you need any more info on the article.

I thought there was something weird about how he was mentioned, repeatedly, by name, and by title, in the BBC article.

The story has caused a great deal of controversy in the office.

My view that the law should be applied equally did not go down well.

Spicer's a self-promoting bellend

Is that why the BBC article says the daughter was fined, when actually the fine is made out to him? Unless he named his daughter after him...?

I liked;

An Italian friend said it was yet another example of Britian’s addiction to pointless rules and regulations.

Italy of course being one of those super deregulated countries free of all pointless bureaucracy.

He took his clothes off on the tube for some fucking reason or other:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/andre-spicer/why-i-stripped-naked-on-t_b_13266896.html

What a weirdo. He's desperate for attention. It's only a matter of time before we find out he called Tower Hamlets to report himself.

Also, despite what he wrote, that picture ain't of a central line train.

Italy of course being one of those super deregulated countries free of all pointless bureaucracy.

Basically all negated by the regulated ability to get espresso for 40p or whatever if you don't sit down.

You haven't been on the Circle line for a while then. Watch the video at the bottom.

Just after leaving Monument Station on the London Underground’s Central Line

despite what he wrote, that picture ain't of a central line train.

You haven't been on the Circle line for a while then.

You're right about me not having been on the circle line for a while, though.

Bah, misread it!

Nothing to see here...

Is that why the BBC article says the daughter was fined, when actually the fine is made out to him? Unless he named his daughter after him...?

Not evidence whatsoever*, but my hunch is the inspectors saw him from across the street. They decided he looked like the sort of doggy spiv who'd try and hustle naive festival goers and acted accordingly.

*other than the photo showing his daughter who being small next to the table could have easily been missed among the throng of people.