Is it time to start calling out bad cyclists?

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  • I always wondered how that was intended to be used - does NCN4 stay on the pavement up to that nasty courtesy crossing at Battersea Bridge?

    Yep, and NCN4 continues past Battersea Bridge on the pavement next to the river all the way past Chelsea Bridge up to the turn off for Lupus St. It's my running commute route and I rarely see any cyclists on the bit between Lots Rd and Battersea Bridge.

    You can see it all if you zoom in enough on http://www.opencyclemap.org

    But I regularly use it coming the other way commuting home to avoid the snarled up traffic by the Albert Bridge junction. (I join NCN4 on the pavement coming Westbound by the Royal Hospital Grounds, go under Albert Bridge and then rejoin the road coming up to the Battersea Bridge junction).

    Anyway, people on Cremorne Road really are much more likely to let you out to turn right there, than at the junction with Lots Road, which is nice.

    Yep, although the cyclists who do this rarely look to their left when they try and merge in with everyone who was already on Cremorne road. Minor problem though...

  • Which isn't the case in the ones on my current commute or, as it turns out, my old one.

  • Seem to be seeing a guy on a purple No Logo bike pushing his way through small gaps. One of which was to squeeze between a black cab and another cyclist who had his kid strapped on the back. dick move especially as we caught up to him at the next red light.

  • There's a zebra crossing on my commute, which forms part of the shared path from Bristol Temple Meads to the centre. Cars generally stop there for cyclists. Further along the shared path, just before you hit Queens Square is another crossing, this time no zebra crossing but a raised section of road (essentially an extended speed hump) and 'give way' markings on either side of the hump for cars. Its strange because it is a much more ambiguous crossing for everyone, cars, bikes and peds. Often cars will give way, but about 20% of the time they don't. I've often wondered why they went with that there and not a zebra.

  • You can get these 'elephant' crossings for cyclists adjacent to zebras now, like those in Hackney. Work well in my experience so far.

  • I can think of a few places in London where it makes sense and some places where proper marking of shared use is actually in place. But mostly it's cunts appearing out of a side road, hopping up onto the pavement and ploughing across the zebra crossing while not giving a shit.

  • Aren't they tiger crossings?

  • In Hackbridge, south london, there are similar raised sections where there is an unwritten, local knowledge agreement that cars stop for peds.

    Occasionally a driver won't be aware of the agreement and that can be fun!

  • you live in Hackbridge?

  • This is the problem, no-one really knows how to treat the junction. The peds and cyclists don't know if the cars will stop or not. I went over it yesterday and a car went through it without stopping. His window was open so I took the opportunity to point out he's just ignored a give way but I got no reaction.

    The only saving grace is the hump forces them to slow, but its at the end of a cobbled street so the traffic is moving slow anyway. Everyone understand zebra crossing rules, no-one is really sure about that sort of crossing, so why not have a zebra there?

  • I just cycle through it. I live in Carshalton.

  • I kinda like the quirkiness of it, but you are right, it does cause confusion and will probably be someone's undoing one day.

  • Cunts. Cunts everywhere.

  • Heading home along the Eastway past the Olympic Park. I'm on a single speed shopper, loaded Carradice, wearing jeans and pottering along. This total MAMIL in full kit comes past me leaving inches to spare, slides in right under my front wheel and gradually begins to decelerate. I say "close enough champ?" - which he ignores... then (and this is the icing on the commuter cake) he flicks the elbow. At first I thought it must be the onset of some sort of fit brought about by over exertion - but no, he slows again and gives it the flick. Cheeky fucker!

    I obliged by going round him and dropping him... What a legend! I mean I'm partial to a dreamy disposition but I never built a breakaway out of a bald 40 year old bloke trundling home on an equally ancient post bike.

  • Muppet who was chasing stronger rider got tired and caused nice crash on the CS7 last night. Tried to get onto raised cycle path s/b at Oval at speed, way blocked by cyclist doing suitable pace, scuffed the kerb and went down taking innocent cyclist with him.

  • Any vidz? Sounds EPIC

  • Would pay money to see this happen again, always funny when karma comes calling

  • It was one of those moments where I would have liked to have had a camera. Felt for the innocent bloke getting taken out, but muppet man defo came of worst.

  • Been driving/riding (motorbike) a lot recently, often find myself thanking people for looking over their shoulder before manoeuvring across the front of me, it happens so rarely. Commuters in race kit, obviously nowhere near as strong as they think they look, tend to be the worst offenders: riding at their absolute limits to shave a few seconds off their commute. Yep, because we all know riding full whack in rush-hour traffic fumes is gonna do wonders for your VO2 max. Seems like safe cyclists are in an ever shrinking minority in London, dangerous cnuts however are in rich supply.

  • Was riding along the OKR this morning behind a female motorcyclist. She was behind a bus and was taking an absolutely perfect position in the road making no attempt to push up and squeeze past. I was coming up behind and was actually going a little quicker then her (the bus was going slowly!) so slowed up to give her plenty of space. Low and behold 2 mamils matching your description undertake me, then her and then jam themselves up behind the bus. She losses her safe distance so then has to back everyone behind up to maintain it. Shock result when the bus stops both her and i breeze by said douche bags and i give the obligatory wanker wave.

  • Ah gotta love the idiots who fight like crazy to undertake you then drop back so you're half-wheeling them, forcing you drop back to a safe distance, rinse & repeat. Usually the same geniuses who will sit in the blindspot of another road user then are suddenly surprised when they are almost left hooked. The lack of basic Highway Code knowledge is astounding. These people (hopefully) wouldn't operate dangerous machinery without proper training or at least reading the instructions, why this sentiment doesn't apply to the road I'm still unsure. A lot of "monkey see, monkey do" going on IMO.

    I'm often tempted to drop the dough on a CTC instructor course and offer free training to these individuals, though I doubt it'd do any good as many seem to think they're above it all. However, I sometimes try and initiate a conversation to try and discover the rationale behind their actions - only one person has obliged (luckily a logical intelligent human), and I emerged from it with greater understanding of what happened and also ways to avoid in future (we were both at fault, but not how either had originally thought) - more often than not they're immediately on the defensive giving out abuse, or some tribal car blaming BS. I don't even get this shit from North London 14 year olds on stolen mountain bikes.

  • Been driving/riding (motorbike)

    which one?

  • half-wheeling

    "overlapping"

    Half-wheeling is when you ride side-by-side with someone (on purpose) and they keep riding slightly ahead of you ("half a wheel ahead") requiring you to speed up slightly to get level with them again only for them to move half a wheel further up than you again. Lather, rinse and repeat until the pace is way above what was planned.

    #begsthequestion

  • Driving car / riding motorbike, getting ready to do my unrestricted moto tests, rocking L's atm :)

    How are you? Good I hope.

  • Apologies for my terminological error (and thanks for the correction+explanation). I hope my original point was clear, they're intentionally creating a scenario where a crash is highly likely.

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