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  • Is it rooted? If not, no way. If so, probably no way.

  • It might be possible with a custom rom and/or VPN.

  • I have PIA VPN.

    I wondered if tethering it via sub would work somehow?

    No @mashton it's not rooted.

  • Without root I think you have no chance.

  • Okay. Never mind then. Ta.

  • Has anyone managed to buy a sim-free Lenovo P2 in a Three shop ?? I suspect they have a limited supply and only offer them to punters to who they can sell a lucrative contract. Anyone else seen this with popular phones ?

    I wanted to know how much RAM they have in the model they sell, can't find out on-line either.

    I'm cosidering a P2 or Moto G5+, could any users please say how much/little they like theirs.

  • I had a fairly lengthy look in to this because my contract doesn't have overseas tethering. Tried a number of easy and complicated solutions that were suggested online, none worked.

  • Both.

    Copyright is a relatively recent invention to earn from a creative work after the work has been completed.

    Before copyright one was traditionally commissioned to create a work. I tend to think of architects as a simple example, they are paid generously in advance for the creation and it's execution, but they don't assert a right over the creation once it is there and don't assert any claim to an income derived from it's use or resale or even from someone creating a derivative work.

    I just do not see why copyright exists at all.

  • I've always wondered whether tethering via bluetooth rather than wifi would get around this?

  • Bugger, thanks. I'd have thought it wouldn't have been too hard in this day and age.

  • I'll try that.

  • You need your phone's hotspot to perform NAT and DHCP. Android devices used to do this by default, until the mobile networks bullied Google into changing the defaults so that devices connected to the hotspot were essentially joining your provider's network.

    Easy to fix on rooted devices.

    They also inspect the traffic; we used to be able to stream Amazon Video to our hearts' content on a Linux laptop tethered to an Android phone with a 3 SIM, whilst trying to browse on a Windows laptop would redirect to the "Your package doesn't include tethering" page. They learnt to detect Linux laptops about a year ago. Not sure if this was by looking at the user agent string sent by the browser, but we're not reliant on tethering at home any more.

  • Not without also changing settings for which you need root.

  • How do you do this on a rooted phone? The solutions I looked at involved editing some files (I can't remember which) but it didn't work.

  • to VPN or to not VPN?

    ok so im not very technically minded so bear with me. Can I VPN on a phone? how easy/hard is it? are there any obvious downsides? is it slower? what does it protect or not protect? I have a nexus 6p via google currently with a 3 unlimited data sim. (if any of that helps.)

  • I use Private Internet Access - who have an app. It's as simple as entering your username / password to their app, then turning it on / off in the same app.

    I'm sure there are other methods mind.

  • Buildings aren't a very good example though, as they are pretty difficult to duplicate. And copyright may be a recent invention, but so is mass duplication.

  • does that mean I need a home VPN with them as well or can it just be done through the app just for the phone? thanks I shall investigate that on the play store.

  • They also have a PC application, which you can install. Then you have a similar button to turn it off / on on any device which has the application installed.

    This isn't the same as setting you router up or having it always on, but it is really simple to set up.

    Edit - yes, you need to pay them for a VPN - I think it's a few dollars a month to do so.

  • There is a workaround I used to use, not sure if it will still work though-

    On the device you are connected to change the browser to spoof a phone or tablet (think I used to do it in Firefox), and it could bypass the network picking up on it.

  • One thing to bear in mind is that you will take a bit of a battery hit using a VPN on your phone.

    On the other hand, some mobile networks do block sites (I think you need to request the filter to be taken off or something). For instance 3 block the Private Internet Access site.

    There may be a bit of a speed hit but you wouldn't notice unless you're constantly downloading large files.

    The main thing I use it for (I use PIA too) is connecting to public wi-fi, I don't use that without being connected to a VPN.

    You basically sign up on the website ($3 a month or whatever), they give you a username and password, you download the app, put in the username and password and off you go.

    Also works on 5 devices at once so you can have it on phone, tablet, PC, etc

  • Will give that a try.

    @Emyr it's not rooted, so can't do that. I guess I'll just accept I've onyl 30gb tethered and have to go to a wifi cafe if I need more.

  • In the same boat mate, went into 4 three mobile shops yesterday, only one had them on display but not in stock. The fella told me they only get very limited stock of the lower/mid phones sometimes as few as 20, they would rather you go for a flagship. He told me to call them on Friday as that's there delivery day. Not found anyone selling G5+

  • I think these commands should route tethered devices' traffic into the phone's default VPN:

    iptables -t filter -F FORWARD
    iptables -t nat -F POSTROUTING
    iptables -t filter -I FORWARD -j ACCEPT
    iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE

    But I have no way of testing this.

  • As of Android 4.3, tethered traffic is tagged by default:

    Untagging tethering traffic, 4.3+, 5.*: (Requires the device to be writable when connected via USB debugging)

    adb shell settings put global tether_dun_required 0

    Untagging tethering traffic, 6.0 onwards: edit the build.prop file to add

    net.tethering.noprovisioning=true
    https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/enable-free-wifi-tethering-android-marshmallow-0167832/

    I've also read that adding "dun" to your APN type might help.

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