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  • For what it's worth, the way I divide these things up in my little brain is that terrorists are people who imagine that as individuals they can wage war against states.

    Yes this is something I've been thinking about comparing the state's response to London/Westminster bridges (immediate Cobra meeting etc) compared to the poor response to grenfell from authority.

    In the bridge attacks the establishment was attacked directly because the perps represented an ideology that is anti-our establishment. The victims of the Grenfell tower who would have really benefitted from a strong and coordinated response, an immediate look at the death tally etc were so not establishment that it really took a while for the state to move

  • The 'quick' response from police/fire services both bridges and Grenfell ( 8 - 6 minutes ?) appears to be the first and feeble positive comment from government/establishment every time - like thats all we've got.

  • Well the Tories know we have all been complaining that closing Police stations, ambulance stations, (and privatising many ambulance services), fire stations, are unlikely to reduce response times.
    The Tories thus have to resort to claiming that response times have been adequate in order to justify the selling off of the sites formerly occupied by these services.

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