• But that's in contradiction to what they said about immigration again...

    Labour frustrates me to NO END atm. I know they wanted to get exit voters... but polls suggest most members/voters were remain anyway.

    Maybe it's to try to get some Conservative/LibDem voters, but I can't help but wonder if a message of a strong and social UK would have worked even more?

  • Labour succeeded in winning more ukipper votes than any of us thought they would.

    There are good socialist and populist reasons to leave the eu.

    I can't see how their stance could be any different, plus most pro eu parties didn't fare well on the 8th.

  • Source? I didn't see that in what I read.

    Socialist, yes. But they haven't calculated the risk/reward sums properly. EEA/EFTA means you are still bound to most open market rules which socialists don't seem to like, WTO rules risks violence in NI and really tanks the economy.
    Populist, absolutely, it's a fact-free zone. So anything goes.

    LibDems did gain votes/seats, just not as much as they hoped for. The Greens have no chance with FPTP. But it seems only the Tories cared about Brexit, Labour voters less so... whatever the party decided (see my earlier post) as they though what was on offer for the UK is really attractive.

    Anyways, I'm planning to leave. I hope I got it terribly wrong and it all works out for the UK. But I don't see it.

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