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maybe now is the time for everyone to check their fire alarms at home, give them a quick press and make sure they are working, all people in all corners of the house can hear said alarm

for the more carefree of us
can anyone recommend a decent fire alarm that can be bought on the high street

is there a .gov website, or a fire brigade website recommending the best ones to buy

stay safe

This is their recommended retailer so suspect anything on there would do the job:

http://www.safelincs.co.uk/all-smoke-alarms/?referrer=fireservice

jeremy hunt's reappointment as health minister is going well

Then there's the optical vs ionisation vs heat debate etc.

This is the Which Best buy
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Smoke-Alarms/Kidde-i9040EU-Micro-Smoke-Alarm/B003617X6E

And picking one that isn't so sensitive it's a toast detector.

is it like ordering fine wine at a good restaurant .... just go for the 2nd cheapest bottle alarm ?

I thought the answer to that was go for the cheapest - restaurants know that people on dates will always go for the 2nd cheapest so as not to appear stingy, so they can put any rubbish there and it will still sell?

I quite like the Nest (got it free with my home insurance, not sure if I'd pay full price). Dual sensor and gives you a warning that there's smoke before it goes off so you can mute it whilst burning your tea.

Heard that too. The cheapest/house wine on the menu is often better than the 2nd cheapest because they want the house wine to have a good reputation.

Doubt the same logic applies to fire alarms...

I saw it with my own eyes at a fire service demo in 2004 and have been advising clients against using anything other than rockwool ever since.

The building trade have known about this issue for years but hide behind "LPC approved" ratings and similar mumbo jumbo. A good example of this is the Grenfell Tower Regeneration Project planning document;

p. 6. Celotex say FR5000 has "Class 0 fire performance throughout the product in accordance with BS 476 [Part 6]" and that its "surface spread of flame [is] Class 1" with respect to BS 476 Part 7 (https://www.celotex.co.uk/products/fr5000 - link to Product Data Sheet PDF, August 2016, p. 2).

Another thing about PIR are the toxic gasses produced when it burns, particularly hydrogen cyanide. Again, this is well known.

damn, that is why a lot of my dates end early, the old shite 2nd cheapest bottle of wine faux pas

they should really handle that in the 101 ways to make your first date go well book

http://www.argos.co.uk/product/7003512

@dicki

http://www.fireservice.co.uk/safety/smoke-alarms/

https://www.safewise.com/resources/smoke-alarm-buyers-guide

Sorry forgot what forum I was on:

https://www.johnlewis.com/nest-protect-smoke-carbon-monoxide-alarm-battery/p2045215

may and the dup coalition seems to have been agreed

she even brought a pair of them in their marching gear on her daily duties

bravo!

The Sun is publishing a picture of a Grenfell House resident whose fridge MIGHT have caused the fire.

edit: the mail beat them to it.

the public interest.

For a moment I parsed that as posting a picture of the fridge, which I thought was ridiculous but harmless (ish) - but man how fucking low

i see there's a picture of him drinking a nice cold lager that possibly came from the fridge he used to kill all those innocent people. THE BASTARD.

is there a .gov website, or a fire brigade website recommending the best ones to buy

Some fire services will provide you with a free alarm. No idea if it's a nationally available offering though.

Unlikely coz of Tory cu ts

Jesus, why did you make me go and look, now i'm angry. Where's that blocker that just means you get Cat pics instead of the mail website?

the mail also helpfully point out that yer man is from Ethiopia. Which pretty much makes this bob geldoff's fault as well.

I'm on my way to Latimer Road station for a vigil of hope for Jessica Urbano
Please join us white t shirt appreciated.