General Election June 2017

(imhop, etc)

Yep, yet claims to be liberal.

That has libertarian on two different axes...

Economically liberal vs socially liberal. A different word would be better...

Interesting video on the economics of the UK and the 2017 General Election.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqup9sVP9e0

I took the political compass test again. Used to be roughly where Gandhi was... I've now moved a little more Libertarian, a little more Left. Now I come out where Noam Chomsky is.

https://www.politicalcompass.org/test

In the 2017 GE this is where the parties come out:

I'm the polar opposite of Conservative and UKIP... even farther to the Left than Labour and more Libertarian than Green.

Where I am:

I may be the most Libertarian Left person on this forum of Libertarian Lefties.

Yeah
I liked fixies before you.

I'm 3 in, 5 up. Clicking on the link does show a 3in,3up chart before you've done the test though, confusing

That link with the 3 in, 3 up is my result :)

I've changed my post to make the link go to the test, and to embed my result.

Interesting it puts me closest to the Green party.

Bloody right-winger ;)

Quite an interesting little quiz

Economic Left/Right: -4.5
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.9

Your Political Compass

Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.69

Your Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -5.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.41

Funny the SDLP is still on the left square...no support for any abortion access at all. [bar life/super severe pregnancy issues threatening the permanent long term health of the woman, well yay]

It's close;

Economic Left/Right: -7.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.44

Turns out I'm a bit of a lefty

BTW they have a book list! If you want to understand the "other side".

Authoritarian left/Libertarian right so far get my hackles up more than Conservative Right...bizarre. [looks in mirror] ;)

VB, plz...

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I am told again and again that you get more conservative when you get older - does this hold true in practice?

It's easier to be radical when you're young because you usually have little or no stake in things. Whether you change over time depends on your personality, whether you made your political choices based on fashion or conviction, how many responsibilities/baggage you've accrued and other things. Re-evaluating your beliefs is something you should do as you learn anyway, if you're an intelligent adult and not a robot. You can become more nuanced in your views without abandoning your principles.

There's a breed of media commentator who moves from one extreme to the other as they age purely because it pisses the largest number of people off and all they've ever really cared about is sneering at everybody else. When they were young, they sneered from within their radical group at the rest of the world. As they age, they decide to sneer at the other people in that group and shift political perspective to justify it. Melanie Philips, for example.

But the idea that people move from left to right over their lifetime is out of date - a cliche from a time when left-wing idealism was in vogue. Right now, the alt-right and the loony conspiracy theory community is fashionable and there's a lot of young idiots signing up for radical assholery just because of the noise. Hopefully at least some of them are going to reflect and mature as they age.

Economic Left/Right: -7.5
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.33

the alt-right and the loony conspiracy theory community is fashionable

Fuck me. Is it?

Wow - much further to the lib left than I expected - I'm a massive libertarian lefty.

Economic Left/Right: -6.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.26

I didn't think the questions were much good, though, so I view that with a pinch of salt - e.g. I do think that the market is and can be a good thing in general, but the questions on free markets were all too strongly worded to be able to agree with (e.g. "what's good for multi-national corporations is always good for society").

Ah I don't have a clue about this sort of Internet wizardry