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OK. It's pretty difficult to get around nearby as you can imagine, will see what I can do.

this weird looking fuck is about have a pisser of a week.

Thanks everything helps

Is that Carl Pilkington?

I've seen his face but I google searched this photo to discover his identity and it says Big Ben.

Gavin Barwell. Used to be Minister for Housing. Lost his seat in Croydon.

Needs to find a new shirt maker too

Recently appointed to be Theresa May's chief of staff.

Like a lightning rod for shit.

seriously? oh man...

What systems do you think exist?

There was a system installed when the building was 'regenerated'

https://web.archive.org/web/20170614035707/http://wittukgroup.co.uk/grenfell-tower-london-w11-1tq-regeneration-project/

She's lurching from crisis to crisis, blessed with the anti-Midas touch.

A senator and 4 others shot at a congressional baseball practice in Virginia.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2017/jun/14/virginia-shooting-house-majority-whip-congressional-baseball-practice-live

If only more of the crowd had had their weapons on them. If every person carried a weapon at all times, the world would be much safer.

Most modern methods of construction use EPS, PUR or PIR panels to some extent. The only non-combustible material to use in composite panels is rockwool (mineral glass fibre) which does the same job but doesn't burn. Architects, builders, surveyors etc. have all known this for years.

It's a really horrific tragedy, I'm so sorry for all those involved.

The only non-combustible material to use in composite panels is rockwool (mineral glass fibre)

Silica Aerogel, but their budgets probably don't extend to Spacetherm.

Working with Architects at the moment, apparently the guidelines are that you should be able to stay in the flat for over an hour - so the intent isn't to have fire alarms to alert other properties and risk a stampede. Obviously that assumes that compartmentalisation isn't compramised to allow a fast spread of fire which it seems the new cladding has made happen

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It's unfortunate that Trump is tweeting about this at the minute. When you go to his twitter, it's covered in balloons as it's his birthday.

Cash donations are currently being doubled here: https://secure.thebiggive.org.uk/grenfell

Doing the same right now to some in Ardwick and loads in Salford have been done.

The alu-coated insulated cladding is a pretty standard solution, but I doubt we'll be able to identify the product used.

Thanks Howard we've checked them all as well as the hospitals. We are now waiting and hoping.

There's 2 on the way from Ancoats to Velodrome similar. Been happening nationally i'd guess?

Within 2 years Grenfell Tower will have been pulled down and a new luxury tower block started to be built on the land. It will have 30% 'affordable housing', which will drop to about 5% if any by the time it's built. I'm calling it now.