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Horrific. Have to ask why modern 'fire rated' building materials went up so quick?

It's a sad state of affairs when your instant thought is this tragedy occurred because someone somewhere was trying to save money, because this was my instant reaction!

Tragic. Echoing thoughts of all here. Thoughts within all affected.

The eye witness reports seem to all be saying there were no alarms sounding in the communal areas.

A lot of the residents who managed to escape this morning were saying similar things. A lot of anger at the building's designers and those responsible for its maintenance. They seemed to think because they were in a poor part of a prosperous borough they didn't get a look in, and this is what happened. I think the picture of the building burning and glowing orange from the inside is going to stay with me for a long time.

Oh my God. Utterly shocking.

There were proposals to completely redevelop the Lancaster West estate. Like the proposal to redevelop the Warick estate where I live, they were rejected, IIRC.

company doing refurb have taken down that info from their website apparently?

My mate says he's been called to a few fires at that block, the new cladding, much like the stuff that was used on the tower blocks that caught fire in Dubai, seems to have been the accelerant...

This looks utterly horrific. It's hard to read witness accounts.

A blog post from November last year :(

https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/2016/11/20/kctmo-playing-with-fire/

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A terrifying story, i'm not sure if i'm being a bit of a snowflake, but this line really doesn't sit well.

"The older enjoyed rap music but also liked One Direction."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35977027

Because rap music kills people, don't you know.

Apparently none of the anti-fire systems went off in the tower, no alarm, nothing. Awful.

Guns don't kill people, Rappers do

What cladding was it? There's been a few blocks re-clad in Manchester in the last few years.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jan/12/tories-reject-move-to-ensure-rented-homes-fit-for-human-habitation

people need locking the fuck up.

Except for Muslims residents fasting for Ramadan who were awake after their post-sunset meal.

Some kind of insulator fronted by aluminium apparently.

Basically Thermite. Ffs.

Apparently pretty common practice. I guess @hoefla would know more.

Not directly. I'd only be speculating.