General Election June 2017

Pretty saddening article about Diane Abbott.

https://cookingonabootstrap.com/2017/06/07/we-need-to-talk-about-diane-abbott-now-explicit-content/

who should I vote for that won't put tax up?

tories

lol

Everyone will put taxes up.

It's just about choosing who wears how much.

Have folks got wake-up strategies in place for Friday?

Oprn to suggestions for the softest way to be disappointed, with the least likelihood of tears in the street or getting sacked for thumping an openly racist colleague etc etc.

News radio will be too harsh, ditto TV. Looking out the window won't help. Soshul meeja no. Papers will have gone to print too early?

Shaun Keeveney might be too much but currently looking the best option....

My insufferable leader is a hardcore libertarian tory with the winning grace of a premiership footballer.

Luckily I was off for the referendum. No such luck this time. Although at least I'm not as emotionally invested.

But to answer your question, either a couple of shots or some temazepam... depending whether I need cheering up or a bit of numbness.

Prepare for more 'You lost, we won - get over it!!!!1242132134'.

Have folks got wake-up strategies in place for Friday?

I'm already resigned to a Conservative win with a majority of 50-100 seats so I won't be depressingly disappointed when I wake up to find that has happened. Also why I'm voting Green in the hope of increasing their influence in parliament. It's the only good thing that I think can happen at this point.

I'll check the bbc front page for confirmation of what I already know will happen and then go in to work early to get on with the stuff that still needs to be done regardless of whichever shitehawk is back in power like a skidmark you can't get out of your best bibshorts.

I reckon she'll get a whacking majority. I've spent the entire election in echo chambers like here. Did the same last time - Milliband not winning was a shock result to me.

In reality, I've not even been able to persuade my parents that she's a cretin, despite pointing out the high risk that I (and the grandchildren) may have to leave the country in the case of May's Brexit.

I think at this point the thing to be positive about is that May will have to own the disaster that is Brexit, the bitter recession and the final, absolute admission that we are fucked.

In related news I'm going to ask for my salary to be paid in Euro, fixed at todays exchange rate.

Wow, even that doesn't convince them?

I think at this point the thing to be positive about is that May will have to own the disaster

If May is kept for the whole parliament. By the time they have another leader anointed they'll be three leaders away from the one who started Brexit, there'll be no personal responsibility left.

But yes, absolutely - by 2022 or whenever I'd like to think that they'll be buried; but the price for that is just so high.

The NHS was created, the railways can be re-nationalised - what was, once, can be again.

Of course, when 1% of the UK have 98% of the money and the majority of us are indentured labourers who pay 88% tax and get food exclusively from food banks stocked by EU NGO's that's going to be a hard furrow to plough.

I've trying to get out the LFGSS and Twitter left leaning echo chamber to get a more balanced picture of other people's views. Especially trying to nail down some good reasons why so many people seem to intend according to the polls to vote Tory..

Looking at other forums, local neighbourhood discussion groups etc. Struggle to find any tory opinion other than Maybot type comments about Corbyn and Strong and stableness.

Seems Torys are a silent majority

It's pretty live at Union chapel

CORBO!

either a couple of shots or some temazepam...

Good call.

I am not in a bubble. I've UKIP voting, Putin-admiring, anti-vaxxers in my personal (not just Facebook) friends. A possibly tragic thing is that Corbyn is the first Labour leader in 3 decades who hasn't been significantly at a remove from the ordinary populace. At some point in the 80s, the Tories captured the populist press and Labour abandoned it. Since then, significant sections of the population who aren't convinced Tory voters have moved in the Trump/UKIP/Conspiracy-Theorist direction - towards leaders who, however mad, didn't publicly sneer at them or label them "deplorable".

But Labour having long lost it's communication channel to the general public, may not be able to persuade them that they now have a leader who doesn't sneer at them.

Just came here to post that.

I thought Abbott's media performances have been pretty poor the last few weeks but that's a sobering reminder of all the shit she's put up with and good stuff she's done over the years so now I feel like a snide cunt (not that I was throwing racist abuse at her on twatter, but still...)

Sadiq Khan, Yvette Cooper, Louise Haigh, Jess Phillips

They all seem like decent people (unlike most of the Conservatives) but Sadiq and Jess have said some things I can't shake.

Sadiq said the three attackers last Saturday were 'too all intents and purposes integrated'. Which just leaves me confused. Jess's weird classist, sexist attitude seems really dodgy.

go in to work early

To get to the pub after work earlier to commence sorrow drowning, for the despair that creeps up on you as they day progresses?

They're not rapid nasty Tory people; I think they've probably voted Labour in the early 2000's. They voted Remain. They read the Murdoch press (Times, not Sun).

I assume they don't take the risk to me seriously; or still think they know better than their children.

I think they can see a direct line between Corbyn and the Winter of Discontent and the Unions and all that and they simply don't want to vote for him.
I can see that Corbyn is not the guy that's going to persuade potential voters (and they are potential labour voters, they have doubts over May) in the way Blair did, yet they're close to the people that Labour will probably need. Guess we'll see tomorrow.

To get drunk and watch me ride around town naked.

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Surely you just send her to a grammar school and tell her to ignore the kids who are simply not trying hard enough?

Didn't want to suggest they're nasty Tory voters (sometimes people get poor other options for example...and they end up with a competent Tory cos the other ones where they live are just really no good for anything)

Some people don't worry as much about Brexit as others, maybe they think it will be OK...

Corbyn is indeed not as charismatic as Blair for many voters. Well we have to wait and see. I'm not hopeful Labour is going to win many seats, but who knows, a hung parliament, getting rid of May for somebody competent... or maybe it's going to be the morning of the Brexit vote all over ;)

[that was not a good week as an EU national as you can imagine. But there are options in mainland EU for all of us, and further abroad if needs be...until the UK really exists, freedom of movement is still there if you want/need it :)]