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Banning non-fleet vehicles wouldn't really work, because all somebody has to do is get a vehicle (didn't the French attack involve a stolen vehicle?) and then bingo.

Why not the time? It's too easy to perpetrate such atrocities with a vehicle as the 2 recent events have proven, especially on bridges where there is no where to escape.

Find it incredible that from first phone in to police shooting suspects takes eight minutes in a busy city,I know it was a quieter time of day but that response time seems rapid

All you'd really be doing is protecting central Londoners. There's another 60 million people all over the country in towns and villages that would remain easily targetable.

Find it incredible that from first phone in to police shooting suspects takes eight minutes in a busy city,I know it was a quieter time of day but that response time seems rapid

There was likely to have been armed police at London Bridge already. There is also a large police station up Borough High St (and probably a smaller one somewhere in or near the station).

These terror attacks so so awful, but I'm so glad we don't have guns in this country or it could be so much worse.

Agree, it would protect people n places where very large groups of people are in the environment, city centres.

bollards

It's a good idea anyway - as we know - but let's do it for the right reasons - protecting pedestrians and cyclists from motorised vehicles, reducing pollution etc.

After all these things kill far, far more people than attacks by deluded 'militants'.

Also (as I think you know really) you aren't going to do this without public support and practically I don't think you'd get that if you tried to introduce it on the back of these attacks - it would look like giving in.

I don't think anyone wants us to change our way of life as a result of these twats.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/03/far-right-raises-50000-target-refugee-rescue-boats-med?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

What a shower of utterly despicable cunts. I hope their boat(s) sink with all hands lost.

What is wrong with people? Gah!

You are right, though there are places (Emily Thornberry mentioned Emirates stadium) where bollards create a large pedestrian only space, the Mall and Buckingham palace on weekends too have protection for large crowds at weekends.

If, as you say, to create these spaces to minimise this type of attack also have other consequences such as eliminating pollution and general road danger, then that is good too

ian duncan smith just blamed the internet for the atrocity

time for a clamp down on our privacy by the sounds of his tone

That's been TM's plan for a few years now.

They have armed response units on patrol (in vans) all the time but yeah 8 mins is very quick!

Some of the armed responders yesterday appeared to be wearing non standard kit. I wonder if there was a military unit involved...

sas on call ?

Eyewitness reports of several young women being stabbed. And the last one was a concert with iconic female performer and predominantly female audience.

Makes me think that misogyny is strong motivator for these guys. To the extent that the religious framework is only secondary to their basic sexual frustration.

There was an SAS heli providing support, so military definitely involved in some fashion, but I don't know if any link to the guys in fatigues.

Possibly but more likely just softer targets.

I had just left the globe last night, making my way with friends to borough market, got to clink street (just after 10) saw a few women with partners crying (assumed a post pub fallout) 2 mins later a group of girls tell us to turn around and leave the area because people are being stabbed. We decided that unlikely as it was, we could just cross on Southwark bridge.
As we did so there were unmistakeabley 5/6 gunshots in quick succession. Seemed to go deathly quiet and hair was completely on end.

We were never super close to the bridge and people have been seriously hurt/scared for their lives. But it was still a pretty surreal and eerie experience.

Tm speach post cobra earlier said it was the internet companies fault for breeding radicalism . They must be clamped down on .

Will she clamp down on the gutter press in this country too?

Mmm. Not geopolitical disturbances, the selling of arms to Saudi, Libya or anywhere else. Not economic and social imbalances disenfranchising huge swathes of the Middle East just as in the UK and providing a common wellspring of angst.

It was fucking Bill Gates and AOL that done it and now we need to forgo the modest joys of sexting and revenge porn to be able to defeat them. If only we'd known sooner.