General Election June 2017

Yeah, I know they're not hugely reliable, would probably only apply to any that are quite evenly split between labour and someone else, but could be more likely to go labour since Corbyn has been doing alright.

Met my local, (Ruislip, Northwood and Pinner), Labour candidate, Rebecca Lury, in Ruislip High Street this morning.
Wished her well, and will vote for her.
Despite being the Tactical 2017 recommendation, she is unlikely to topple Nick Hurd, the 4th successive generation in his male lineage to be a Tory MP, as this area has probably been Tory since this manor was given to Ernulf de Hesdin, one of the henchmen of William the Conqueror.

Will the public consider Corbyn's position on how our current policies radicalise people and help fuel terrorism or will they blindly vote for weak n wobbly May? I have a horrible feeling tonight's events may sway things back towards the conservatives.

Prepare for flamage.

But yes, it adds a piquancy of election worry to the horror of the events doesn't it?

Cunt sticks.

The very same Conservatives who've cut police numbers by 20,000?

I know historically they are seen as the party of law and order, but their austerity policy has decimated public services and seriously weakened our emergency services.

Yet it sounds like the emergency services did an incredible job last night.

One wonders whether every city has the resources to respond like that.

I'm not disputing that at all, the hard work of all the emergency services is something we should all appreciate.

However, this is the third incident in two months and, whilst we know nothing yet of the identity of the perpetrators, I'd be surprised if they weren't known to the security services. As others more knowledgeable than me have commented, the cuts to community policing have been particularly hard and that has a direct effect on intelligence gathering at the local level.

I know it is ghoulish but I hope that JC makes these points loudly and strongly between now and Thursday. What was the Maybot's job before being PM, remind me?

I'm not sure he should, and I'm fairly certain he won't. I think there is a big difference between someone like me making them, and the leader of a major political party making them this close to an election. Using the loss of lives for political capital is a dangerous path to follow.

^I agree

May is feeling backed into a corner, I'd imagine her more likely to try to make headway from this and to go for the UKIP idiot vote.

Agreed, just like the Manchester attacker being reported 3 times that he was as risk of being radicalised but nothing was done about it.

I can't remember where I read it but there was an account from a modern day policeman describing how there's no community engagement anymore because there's not enough police or time. We need to get back to a place where if someone in a community starts acting strange it will get noticed and checked rather than just responding to the next big event.

20,000 police have been cut since conservatives came to power.
Budget fell between 2010-15 by 20%

Why are they not being hammered on this. Plus amber Rudd refuses to rule out further cuts.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/40060677

Corbyn suspends campaigning till this evening.

I believe it was a police officer addressing Theresa May directly at the 2015 Police Federation conference.

Edit - http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/theresa-warned-manchester-police-officer-10497970

May also now infamously accused the police of scare mongering.

My thoughts exactly. Where's The Sun with 'blood on their hands' hyperbole? Presumably it's not a tenuous enough connection for them.

These two points seem like fair comment (the second more strongly cynical):

https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/871300658644881408

https://twitter.com/StevePeers/status/871309253251870720

The second one is more important. I don't think campaigning should have been stopped this close to the election. If these things were to be 'scored' in any type of way, a disruption of the democratic process (as flawed as it is) is a point for these assholes. But May's tried to play it both ways, so I hope she gets a real kicking for it. Trying to make a political point out of this, while claiming for anyone else to do so is wrong, is pretty fucking scummy.

Will it though? Surely it underlines May's woeful record on security as Home Secretary and the lack of any clear foreign strategy.

She has a trumpesque relationship to reality. Tell the strong and stable lie enough and people may believe it, say that you are tough on immigration and trrror and people may believe it.

That's true but because she was a known Remain supporter luckily a lot of people supporting Brexit don't trust her already so are hopefully paying more attention to her track record than they would otherwise, not to mention the repetitive soundbites that are paper thin lies... That said, there's no accounting for the massive stupidity of huge swathes of the population

There is an obvious irony in Theresa May calling us 'too tolerant'.

Whatever you think of her assertion, she is the PM, before that she was our Home Secretary. Prevent works but isn't being facilitated and she's partly responsible for that. Her speech today will really win votes, particularly naming radical Islam as the issue (something others still shy away from). But if this is on anyone, it's on her, not the opposition.

Yeah, but which other candidate will have the bravery and resolve to face the terror problem by having a few billboard vans drive around with a slogans such as "Stop being a terrorist or face arrest" and then perhaps "text ENOUGH to 7870 for free advice".

I really don't think this is a good idea

https://twitter.com/evanmcmurry/status/871358001541595137

Thoughts from a former senior Met officer

https://twitter.com/alexnunns/status/871338697127538688

That is outstanding! The guy must be coming up to retirement and just thought, fuck it!

So the government are lying, yes the government are lying.

I hope this is the headlines tomorrow