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A colleague of mine at work is a lovely man, and a Labour councillor, and we've long respectfully disagreed about Corbyn. His main complaints are about the trashing of Blair's legacy, which he thinks comes in for a disproportionate amount of hostility, and I think finds Corbyn in general a bit embarrassing.
At some points, I was in complete opposition to him, but earlier in the year I'd come to think that even though I was glad to have voted for Corbyn (twice), it was time for him to go.
Now, colleague and myself are both in agreement that he's done a cracking job on the campaign so far, and that the manifesto is a very good one. I'm really pleased that he's decided to put his reservations aside and throw his weight behind the party. Surely as momentum gathers more will do the same.
I might keep calling Jon Woodcock a cunt on Twitter till he fucks off though.
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If Labour had a more media friendly leader, they'd be miles ahead in the polls.
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... adamantly against JC since day one. As far as I can tell, it is because he is "unelectable" ...
This attitude is wholly without integrity for me: power at any cost.
Blair and the New Labour project were a success in this regard, but did so by betraying everything that Labour should stand for.
Better principled opposition, than immoral government.
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I think I do. I supported JC at the beginning of his time as leader, thinking he offered genuine change and appeared to be able to draw some support. His dealings with the PLP tarnished him for me, he seemed incapable of considering the bigger picture of voters who help you win government and support the party/policy vs voters who are part of the labour party membership and support him. I also think he isn't ruthless enough and never seems to properly capitalise on all the failings of the Torys over the last 2+ years.
That said, he represents the best option for a different government. The manifesto is great, and I genuinely wouldn't want any of the other candidates as PM. However, Labour would probably do better with the same policies and a different leader, IMO.
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I have quite a few long term, involved, labour member friends who have been adamantly against JC since day one. As far as I can tell, it is because he is "unelectable" and will leave labour on the fringes for years.
As a thought experiment, I wonder what they would think of him were he to win the general election. Obviously, this is highly unlikely to happen, but more likely than two weeks / months / years ago.
I will ask them at some point.
Does anyone else on here fit into that category and would care to comment?