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  • Looking at their latest marketing email, what's the difference between the randonee shorts and​ the all day shorts? (Also, anyone know if the touring shorts are likely to be added to the range again?)

  • Actually the touring shorts are still available in my size. So a similar but different question - what's the difference between Touring and Randonee? [Edit: ah, no side pockets is one difference]

  • I thought the touring were designed to go over bibs, whereas the randonee were more standalone? Through presumably one could do the same with the randonee - might have to size up?

  • Touring, lighter weight, but only a little bit in there latest version, less baggy, less pockets.

    I have both, I find the randonee more useful for commutes, more pockets for keys, workpass and stuff.

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