General Election June 2017

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  • My paternal grandmother lived with my parent's until a few days before her death, aged 98.

    On the maternal side, my grandfather had Alzheimers and needed specialist care for the last ten years of his life. This was paid for by the government, as he had no savings (in fact he had debts, that his children settled). His wife, my grandmother, had dementia and also needed specialist care for the final few years of her life. So even if there are family members prepared to help, some people will need care that is beyond their capabilities.

  • She's got every chance of going full Ed before polling day.

    https://youtu.be/jlTggc0uBA8

  • It's also progressive, in that it targets those who have the means to pay

    It's sort of progressive. But it's also target those not fortunate enough to just drop dead. People have already paid for their care by funding the NHS - the point of which at that age should be to diversify away the risk of you being the one that has the lingering disease that eats all your famillies resources.

    However, if you're going to make them pay, then yes, means test it by all means - that's progressive. However, remove the risk of the type of illness playing being more of a determining factor than their income.

  • I think she did OK considering she's usually one step away from an actor in the Thick of It.

    Obvs not Blair or Cameron good, but on message, using consistent phrasing and good framing of Labour.

    Edit: new page and didn't see the Thick of It video!

  • Jesus Christ.

    That's the first time I've seen that, and I already feel like I've watched the video 5 times...

  • I agree that it will affect the middle wealth individuals more than the properly wealthy, and I would always choose a lower stricter Inheritance threshold that also cracked down on trusts etc over this any day, but for the Tories this isn't fucking over the properly poor which is surprising and is a realistic way of sorting the problem of an ageing population.

  • Hoarding wealth to the extent that you incur inheritance tax is economically counterproductive.

    Moar N+1 plz.

  • There is another option,
    State owned assets of natural monopolies, earning a steady but non-economically unsettling return, held in a Sovereign wealth fund.
    Examples would be the National (electricity) Grid, Gas pipelines, more upto date, the connecting cables that allow offshore wind turbine fields to access the National Grid.
    Would also add Water Companies.

  • fucking hell. Even Neil seems to be disdainful of such a vapid, dishonest non-entity being in charge of the Tories. May, Boris, Gove, Hunt, Fox, Davis will soon be to politics what the name MacBeth is to acting.

  • A canadian teacher's pension fund owns London City Airport and a large stake in a few of the utility companies. No reason why the state couldn't do the same.

  • I think that the inherent challenges in governance of state owned monopolies are yet to be overcome. The same holds true for government granted monpolies too. It can work well although there are few great examples to draw from either approach.

  • I am so angry that a murdering, racist criminal has stolen the headlines this morning, as well as the lives of children.

  • Although you're upset you might want to rethink how that comes across mate.

    You will be relived to know print media hasn't had enough time to update their stories.

  • The tax is a pretty low blow. It will affect the 'poor' middle class families. Rich enough to have money, having worked hard all their life to buy the house, poor enough to have to spend it and be left with nothing. And you know it's a scandal waiting to happen as Andy points out.

    I've experienced all ends of the spectrum from family members.

    Though i'd expect a workaround, like inheritance tax, property transfer and so forth.

  • Barren? I'm glad misogyny is alive and well on LFGSS.

  • Let's not forget what Phillip May does for a living, he works in financial services and his company is a major shareholder in Legal & General, who just happen to offer policies to pay for care for pensioners, secured against the value of your home.

  • I'm not sure (I am sure) why this wasn't picked up by the mainstream media as the scandal it is. It's shocking.

  • Genuine question due to my political ignorance.

    If this is true (and I have no reason to doubt you), how is this allowed? That strikes even me, as a layperson, as a monumental conflict of interest. If someone you know stands to benefit financially (beyond due care and support) from your political endeavours (even worse, if it's your partner/spouse then you also benefit), how the fuck can you be allowed to run the fucking country!?!?!?!

    "My next policy states that all people named Theresa May be given 1 Billion pounds"

  • Mens rea I would imagine- you can point to Osbourne being given that £650k/year job by Black rock for doing fuck all and say "that's a huge coincidence given what he did with pensions, which hugely benefited companies such as Black Rock", but you'd need to prove intent.

  • I can't just point at the fuckers and shout "Just fucking look at them, LOOK!" for proof?

  • Worth a go

  • I know what I'm doing with my evening

  • I think your noble steed is somewhere over that-a-fucking way >>>>>

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