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  • they just paid a one off fee to use the name / brand you reckon? Nothing to do with Joe / Faral as my nan calls him. Do you know Joe personally? sounds like it ;)

  • I'm sure he's getting a cut. It's just a real shame things have gone the way they have though as I know Joe had big plans over the years, but things never quite worked out with various planned collabs.
    I understand his position completely though. It really sucks your momentum and motivation when you have great ideas and abilities, but certain things seem to conspire against you.
    The 'glory days' when Doc was on board and the brand wasn't as well known were awesome though.
    The products they were testing, releasing were so unique in style and functionality that they really carved out their own niche.
    Unfortunately the sport progressed much more quickly than people expected and people moved away from the super hardcore, heavy hitting bikes, ridden purely for the buzz of it, and the lightweight, racing side of things took over.
    I think both Joe and Doc got fed up of slogging away making bikes that required a lot of effort for such a small company to make, but which would ultimately mean that profits would be low.
    Anyway... They made some awesome bikes and allowed those lucky enough to own them to have a lot of fun.
    I just hope Joe comes back stronger than ever at some point in the future, as he's a sound guy with a lot of passion for riding bikes.