• I am planning on having Mack low flanges laced to archetypes, as a fair weather commute bike in London with a 20/24 count.

    I weigh about 63kg, and as far as I'm aware this count is safe, do people normally choose to go higher just for durability? Also a few users have mentioned there are better and cheaper rims than the archetypes now, so any suggestions on different rims? (I probably won't be running brakeless)

  • do people normally choose to go higher just for durability?

    Yes, and for greater stability in the event of a spoke breakage. You can usually ride home with one spoke out on a 32H wheel, whereas on 20H it's likely that you'd have to at least slacken off the brake clearance to the point of making it ineffective.

    any suggestions on different rims?

    The thread is full of them, DT R460 is the cheap option, Kinlin XR22T is also significantly less than Archetypes.

  • I would go higher count just to have more rim options. If you're brakeless, 20H NMSW rims are non existant, unless you want to pay ridiculous prices for Archetypes post brexit or get chinese carbon

    Ive had a pair of 20/24 macks sat in a cupboard since christmas because of this dilemma

  • It's like reading my own post as I was aiming for the same setup and am about the same weight :)
    The general trend in this thread is that there are cheaper and/or better rims than Archetypes now. RR511, R460, XR31T and XR22T are often recommended.
    I went for 28/28 on R460DB (they are 28€ per rim) in the end. That should survive everything I planned to do and not to do.

    @Turkish carbon is the way to go

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