Wahoo Elemnt

No laptop needed at all, don't even need to upload ride to phone as it connect to the wifi at your house the moment you walk in with your bike.

If anyone is in the market for an Element Bolt we've got them today, so if you'd like one on your desk tomorrow let me know!

Who we?

Still got any?

New phone, who dis?

Any help appreciated, I'm really losing patience with wahoo bolt.

Any longer rides I do, when they're uploaded to the phone they're cut into a small fragment of the beginning of the ride. Its happened on oasts and coasts and (aborted) BCM this weekend. I hate garmins with a passion so would really like to like this, but its being repeatedly awful.

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And the bolt....

I'm borrowing this, but really can't be bothered to buy one if its going to do this all the time.

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I see what you mean...

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I've not slept since Friday night, so am trying really hard to find which frame bag I left my sense of humour.
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Nah I feel your frustration mate. ; ). The nav on my car was a garmin, I hated that as well.

Are you doing something like pause it or accidentally hitting some kind of lap button?

yeah it looks like you are ending ride and starting again? weird

I've not got laps on, but even if I was it wouldn't show as full ride on the bolt but a part on the app I'd think? Anyway, I resolved it by extracting the .fit file using a program me I downloaded, this was complete. Bit boring but not the end of the world.

FYI.

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Good that they're fixing it but it's a bit disappointing that an issue like this exists. A motivating factor for many to move away from Garmin would be to have better software (as the Garmin stuff is truly crap), and this 'bug' doesn't really inspire confidence that Wahoo will do a better job.

Are you joking?

It's a new device and they can't possibly test every scenario. Have you seen how quickly they release new features and bugfixes? Frankly, I'm amazed at their levels of service and customer focus. If I wasn't already balls deep in the world of hell that is Garmin I'd be all over Wahoo's kit.

difference is they are fixing it, Garmin wouldn't

Even the fact they respond is refreshing.

good news. great to see that they actually listen to customers. bug fix by the end of the month is great, having to wait less than a fortnight. highly highly highly doubt garmin would have had the same response

Is the general consensus to get the Bolt over the original Elemnt? Not fussed about aero-ness as it will be stem mounted.

Feel like there must be some feature difference I'm missing but it looks like the same thing in a smaller pointier box.

Did first long distance test of Elemnt Bolt at weekend and seems huge improvement over Garmin - recorded whole of Bryan Chapman audax as one track without issues. TBT navigation worked fine -the occasional roundabout instruction seemed slightly confused, but just switched it to map view for those. Didn't fear it crashing when switching between pages or anything. Charged reliably via Igaro D1. The auto upload to Strava at the end went funny and came out at 100km, but did it via the phone app instead and came out absolutely fine. It'd be nice if there were more ways of getting TBT tracks onto it (I used ones from someone else's ridewithgps which worked fine, but I do miss Garmin's ability to generate them automatically). I worry slightly that the rubber charging port cover looks a bit flimsy and could eventually break if charging it on the go too much.
But basically I'd recommend it. The ability to control stuff from phone and load up new routes, etc is great - if you're away from home with no computer you can still do everything.

New one looks a bit sexier, old one has bit better battery life.

Is that about it?

Totally agree. I was annoyed when it happened again, but that may have been more to do with bailing 2/3rd's round BCM. I received that message first thing monday morning, and I don't really think you can ask for more. As a comparison, when my Garmin 520 died, the customer services response was, after having to email 3 times "LOL SORRY NOT SORRY! If you don't send it back with a receipt with your name on we won't look at it or give it back suck my balls arsehole". I may be paraphrasing, but that was essentially the vibe. It's a pain, but I know I am not perfect, so can't really expect perfection from those around me.]

I was also annoyed as I'd asked about it on their facebook page when it first happened 2 weeks ago, but they knidly explained that they can't go through all posts on their facebook page, but would respond to DM's as quickly as they could, which they did. I now realise that I was being unreasonably grumpy and that it is a good product, with good customer service.

Ok, some strong responses to my criticism. I'm swayed. I might buy one.