• Fair enough - I don't any any evidence beyond anecdotal about fox populations pre and post ban right now so will look in to it later. TBH I think that's symptomatic of the whole debate - largely based on emotions and with scant evidence. In terms of the hunting, most people who partake don't do it for the sick thrill of seeing an animal killed (the vast majority of the field are nowhere near when a fox is killed). Rather, they do it as it's damn good fun thundering around the countryside at high speed with your mates. That's a key misunderstanding, encapsulated by the cunt-slinging brigade in here, because it immediately writes off a large number of decent people (who might have different views towards the death of animals due to the nature of living in the countryside, but are by no means psychopaths) as bloodthirsty lunatics. People in the countryside feel like their way of life has been needlessly interefered with based on prejudice and misunderstanding, and would like to reverse the ban to stick one in the eye of the 'townies'

  • In terms of the hunting, most people who partake don't do it for the sick thrill of seeing an animal killed (the vast majority of the field are nowhere near when a fox is killed). Rather, they do it as it's damn good fun thundering around the countryside at high speed with your mates.

    Well hold on a moment. If they aren't in it for the killing, why the fuck are they involved with a hunt. You don't need to try and kill a fox in a fundamentally unhumane way to thunder around the countryside at high speed. So any involvement is pretty much condoning the practice.

    People in the countryside feel like their way of life has been needlessly interefered with based on prejudice and misunderstanding

    As a person who grew up in the countryside and has always been against hunting, I think I can safely say that that statement is

    largely based on emotions and with scant evidence

    Here's the thing though, despite the prejudice and misunderstanding, there's a lot of evidence showing that the practice is inhumane. Arguing for it, and by extension, participation in a hunt, whether you see the kill or not, is a statement that you think it's acceptable. What else then is acceptable to hunt members? Kitten punching, kicking buzzards, shitting in the eyes of a badger?

    Perhaps we ought to look at another side of an argument and ask what is it about people participating in a hunt that doesn't make them terrible people trying to preserve a redundant yet elitist and inaccessable tradition?

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