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  • I don't think they have any seats now that Carswell has left.

    I'd say after this election then look again at the voting figures. Possibly with the leave vote going through they will be deemed irrelevant but I'm not sure. I'd say they are far more relevant than someone like Plaid Cymru and they will be at the tv debates.

  • more relevant than someone like Plaid Cymru and they will be at the tv debates

    100% this.

    They have helped shape the current state of British politics. Also no one is proposing reducing Labour's airtime by the % of their anti-Semites, or Tories in relation to their homophobes. So saying they're bigots doesn't cut it.

    I'm not sure how you can support free speech and genuinely think they should be excluded (although I totally get it may leave a bitter taste).

    A lot of people on the left miss that they are often viewed from outside as being anti-free speech and in favour of state coercion / control. Pushing an agenda that seeks to squash views they disagree with doesn't help.

    Specifically as to when UKIP are declared irrelevant, if no seats are won, after this election (I hope).

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