General Election June 2017

I don't think Leave voters are necessarily racist or xenophobic.

Careful now. You have to call them fascists or you might get flamed. But yes I agree with that asessment. R4 are currently interviewing welsh voters who have switched from Labour to the Tories. One said "They used to be the party of the rich, but I don't think that is the case any more". May is succesfully getting her message across, however deceitful it is. I don't think we have a fucking hope in hell in June.

I went to stay with a Québecois family in Montreal once (the boyfriend was friends with the daughter of the family).

When we got there it turned out we couldn't actually stay because the father wasn't having a couple of gays in his house. Awkward. Not that he would say this to our face, he made sure he wasn't around when we turned up.

The daughter seemed nice but took us on a pro-independence march. It seemed fun: the Montreal sky was unusually blue with fluffy white clouds that offset the fleurdelisé something lovely. Then they started chanting.

Quelle horreur! I have never been surrounded by so many racists at once. We got away pronto and stayed in a gipsy caravan instead. /csb

The nationalists are currently resisting a study about racism in Quebec because they know what the outcome will be:
http://montrealgazette.com/opinion/dan-delmar-why-the-worry-with-studying-racism-in-quebec

I'm yet to hear anyone give a single reason how being in the EU affected their lives for the worse.

"Under an EU regulation that took effect in 2014, vacuum cleaners with the most powerful motors (1,600 watts and above) are banned. The European Commission says the ban will save energy and encourage more efficient devices. Which?, a consumer group, says it prohibits some of the best machines currently being made. Sir James Dyson, the British industrialist, says the efficiency rules were skewed to favour German vacuums over his products."

^ I became largely disenfranchised with the EU when my (english) cleaner was seeming to do a pretty poor job of the hoovering. When I approached her, I realised that the vacuum cleaner I bought, was underpowered. I want a the most powerful fucking vacuum cleaner. I voted leave as I don't want the germans controlling the dust levels in my carpet.

But that's your fault for not having a Henry.

Just to be clear - You voted leave because you bought a crap vacuum cleaner?

You have a non racist reason now, I hope that helps you xx.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39810488 conservatives make more gains.

Honestly, I've not heard anyone even come with reasons as weak as that. At least that has a basis of fact and could affect your every day life. "So we can take control of our future" doesn't really mean "So I can buy a more powerful hoover" to me.

Was a sarcastic attempt to find out whether you think Leave voters are that stupid.

Straight bananas tho.

Was it that our bananas were too straight or did the EU want to foist bent bananas on us? I was never clear on which way round it was. Either way we will now get the bananas we deserve.

I'm yet to hear anyone give a single reason how being in the EU affected their lives for the worse.

Most of the arguments seem to boil down to 1) non-practical philosophical reasons, and 2) financial wastage.

Both are hard to counter.

A perfect ég here :

10 Reasons to Leave

Why we should leave: The top ten reasons we would be BETTER OFF OUT…

1. Freedom to make stronger trade deals with other nations.

2. Freedom to spend UK resources presently through EU membership in the UK to the advantage of our citizens.

3. Freedom to control our national borders.

4. Freedom to restore Britain’s special legal system.

5. Freedom to deregulate the EU’s costly mass of laws.

6. Freedom to make major savings for British consumers.

7. Freedom to improve the British economy and generate more jobs.

8. Freedom to regenerate Britain’s fisheries.

9. Freedom to save the NHS from EU threats to undermine it by harmonising healthcare across the EU, and to reduce welfare payments to non-UK EU citizens.

10. Freedom to restore British customs and traditions.

72% Labour
72% Plaid Cymru
70% Sinn Fein
70% Green

more worryingly

66% Liberal
65% SNP
33% BNP
32% Democratic Unionist
27% Conservative
22% UKIP

As @b&d would say you are a potential LVC

Liberal Voting Cunt (actually iirc @Señor_Bear accused Paul of being and LVC)

A red Henry is 620 watts, and therefore 'A' classified for energy.

You don't need more than a Henry, do you Henry?

Also they are a Somerset-based company so Henrys are Brexiteer friendly.

The obvious one is that EU workers are taking over jobs as they're willing to suffer worse pay/conditions and that is what has gained a lot of support for Leave.

Obviously the argument is that this isn't really an immigration issue, it's a government issue with minimum wage rules, etc. That is a bit of a race to the bottom though if the only protection is the minimum wage. You can see why a business will want to replace its unionised workers who are earning £15 an hour with immigrant labour who aren't part of the union and earns minimum wage.

It isn't really clear how this can be legislated against and maintain freedom of movement.

Commission regulation 2257/94 decreed that bananas in general should be “free from malformation or abnormal curvature”. Those sold as “extra class” must be perfect, “class 1” can have “slight defects of shape” and “class 2” can have full-scale “defects of shape”.

Now we can have abnormally bendy ones. #takingbackcontrol

Except that we always could, they were just classified differently.

I'm yet to hear anyone say the reason they voted out is because they lost their job to an immigrant. The closest I've heard is just the theory of "they steal our jobs".

It's time for today's TM casebook

Probably, when it is the efficiency of the device, not the Wattage that matters.
See led lamps vs incandescent filament lamps for more details.

Just need to get the ex-Commonwealth to grow corkscrew bananas to show the total success of the Leave vote.

I think you mean Empire 2.0.