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  • Honestly I'm still convinced that every single person that voted Out is a racist. I'm yet to hear anyone give a single reason how being in the EU affected their lives for the worse. All this talk about unelected bureaucrats, taking control of our future etc. is just excuses for people who really just want to say "I don't trust foreigners".

  • The obvious one is that EU workers are taking over jobs as they're willing to suffer worse pay/conditions and that is what has gained a lot of support for Leave.

    Obviously the argument is that this isn't really an immigration issue, it's a government issue with minimum wage rules, etc. That is a bit of a race to the bottom though if the only protection is the minimum wage. You can see why a business will want to replace its unionised workers who are earning £15 an hour with immigrant labour who aren't part of the union and earns minimum wage.

    It isn't really clear how this can be legislated against and maintain freedom of movement.

  • I'm yet to hear anyone say the reason they voted out is because they lost their job to an immigrant. The closest I've heard is just the theory of "they steal our jobs".

  • A business will be just as happy hiring a non-unionised UK national for a lower wage.

    So far the Dutch and German unions have stopped people being exploited, it's not an immigrant issue, is a businesses doing whatever issue.

    [yeah I joined a union]

  • The obvious one is that EU workers are taking over jobs as they're willing to suffer worse pay/conditions and that is what has gained a lot of support for Leave.

    Obviously the argument is that this isn't really an immigration issue, it's a government issue with minimum wage rules, etc. That is a bit of a race to the bottom though if the only protection is the minimum wage. You can see why a business will want to replace its unionised workers who are earning £15 an hour with immigrant labour who aren't part of the union and earns minimum wage.

    It isn't really clear how this can be legislated against and maintain freedom of movement.

    Strong, sensible rules protecting the rights of workers and setting a minimum per-hour figure would do so, unless I'm missing your point?

    i.e. if you have to pay everyone the same, regardless of country of origin, then yes - there's a motivation for those nationalities whose economies are in worse shape than ours to come to apply for jobs, but there's no motivation for employers to favour a foreign national over a UK national.

    That doesn't get round the issue of UK nationals simply not wanting those jobs, of course.

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