You are reading a single comment by @JWestland and its replies. Click here to read the full conversation.
  • Honestly I'm still convinced that every single person that voted Out is a racist. I'm yet to hear anyone give a single reason how being in the EU affected their lives for the worse. All this talk about unelected bureaucrats, taking control of our future etc. is just excuses for people who really just want to say "I don't trust foreigners".

  • I know quite a few local socialists...they are not racist and hate what is happening ATM.

    They think the EU is racist for letting refugees down/not doing enough to save them.

    But, as Greenhell would point out in more colourful language, they didn't mind being associated with racists either.

    Perhaps I am too cynical/more calculating, I looked at who was going to execute Brexit, the gutter papers and official Leave, saw it was the Tories and though "yeah, that's going to end well eh?"

    It would be nice though if more Brexiters would come out and say "hey, not in my name!" but such is life: The socialist probably think I'm too soft on capitalism. I think they are naive if they think leaving the EU will lead to a revolution.

    Ultimately we may still have common goals, it's just become bloody hard to talk to each other with the frenzy being whipped up by the media. And it's hard to stay calm for many Remainers too.

    But sure, we are just monkeys in suits sometimes...

  • The socialist probably think I'm too soft on capitalism

    That's a problem which brings a new dimension to it all. There's been massive downside to neo-liberalism, the most obvious example being the culmination of the banking crisis in 2008, and the EU is a firm believer in the power of the free market. Hence the traditional Tory's liking the EU and the traditional Labour disliking it, because they would want more regulation and market protections.

    However if someone were to sit down and count out the pros and cons of EU membership on their every day life, they're going to struggle to write down any solid negatives unless they're a farmer.

    Sure there will be some staunch socialists that dislike the EU for it's free market ideals and therefore think it must be destroyed, but they've got to weigh that against the affects of leaving the free market and putting barriers between our economy and those of every single country physically closest to ours. They may get a warm and fuzzy feeling inside knowing the EU is a little weaker but they're also going to notice how everything is more expensive and they can no longer afford to go on holidays to Spain.

    The rest of the people that voted leave, those that aren't staunch socialists, have no excuse apart from racism and xenophobia.

About

Avatar for JWestland @JWestland started