• I think people might be in danger of projecting opinions through their own bias.

    The opinions of the few hardcore Brexit Tories I've spoken to really boil down to 2 issues;

    1) small government and decentralisation - there is nothing bigger, and more centralised than the EU.
    2) national pride and self determination - acceding the power to make laws independent of a supranational body is weak

    At their core they seem to believe in the right of the individual, and that people should take personal responsibility.

    I'm my limited pool they are much more ideologically driven than taking some sort of practical view of how to make money in the short term. All have unshakeable confidence in their, and the country's ability to succeed.

  • I agree that many Brexit Tories aren't as motivated by financial gain as some here suspect. While I'm sure there are many and various reasons why traditional Tories want us out of the EU, it seems to me that the underlying reason for many is that the role of the Conservative Party has traditionally been to try and ensure that those people who hold the reins of power at the moment continue to hold the reins of power in the future, and that the establishment continues to be the establishment without any threat of the proles and hoi-polloi trying to get involved in running the country. The role of the Conversative Party is therefore to ensure that the current ruling class stays the ruling class, and maintains its ability to govern as it sees fit. Being part of the EU interferes with that, and means that the ruling class can't do whatever it likes in government, and doesn't really feel in control of the country, which chafes the spirits of the more traditionally-minded Conservatives.

  • In which case they are severely deluded.

    Every (UK) Government has centralised, even while giving limited powers to local assemblies,
    and,
    each privatised sector of the economy now has the 'dead hand' of a regulator to oversee it.

    Did these acquaintances of yours ever vote for the WTO, or the UN or NATO come to that, let alone a myriad of other useful international bodies like the Universal Postal Union?

    http://www.upu.int/en/the-upu/the-upu.html

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