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  • Labour also have the huge challenge that the grass roots labour members: the working and non-working poor, the non London masses, the first and second generation middle class are deeply concerned by immigration and by globalistaion. Labour cannot leave these concerns unanswered.

    The massive challenge is that Labour consists of two, deeply distinct, constituent bodies; those described above and the liberal intellectual, political theoretical, London based lefties.

    If the party cannot maintain a homogenous appeal to those two groups, then there is no opposition large enough to counter the Tories.

    Right now I have no fucking scooby how that circle gets squared.

  • Right now I have no fucking scooby how that circle gets squared.

    Brighter minds than you or I haven't solved that conundrum yet, Matt. Jeremy Corbyn isn't the answer, I know that much.

  • those described above and the liberal intellectual, political theoretical, London based lefties.

    I know people always say this. But by enlarge how many of these liberal urbanites views / interests are actually represented by Labour?

    I can't help but feel many have historically tactically voted Labour because they didn't view the Lib Dems as a going concern.

    Bar their authoritarianism and pension raiding, New Labour were basically Liberal Democrats.

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