Guitar Nerds Anonymous

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  • I haven't plugged into an amp in about a year and when I do it's only a champ or borrowed twin in the studio. My rule of thumb is turn it up till it's just about breaking up when hit hard then add pedals for filth. Clean-clean would be backing off a bit on the guitar volume. But fuckit man. Rules are made to be broken. I was watching a J Mascis thing last night and he was talking about doing something akin to the total opposite of this. He runs his amps super clean and what sounds like his amp-on-the-edge of breakup clean sound is actually an overdrive with the volume turned down, which he then OVERRULES with tone of fuzz. He reckons you need that superclean base tone in order to get the volume jump when you kick the fuzz in otherwise instead of getting louder everything just squashes and compresses more with the result that it actually sounds quieter.

  • Yeah, I've seen that video... REALLY surprised me to see he uses pedals to get all of his live sound... I guess I see it as cheating especially when he's using lovely old Plexis etc, bloody rubbish!!! ;)

  • And I know it's the only way you're gonna get a boost to properly boost your volume in a very distorted setting, so depressing... Might as well be using a modelling amp, innit? :O

  • Had a bit of fun with some Kipling on Sunday:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cQ-WmPGu5o

  • Fair play Bref!

  • Get tanked, do a song, start talking in the middle about how important it is to wash your hands. Brilliant.

  • Hurrah for new bass day, the Squier PB-331. Under 7.5lbs and amazing condition for 30-odd years old... hardly a dink on it. Flatwounds immediately installed.

  • Regarding using a clean sound with pedals - this is what I would do. I usually will run my signal via my pedals, and into a completely flat-EQ clean sound. Then, if I want filth, turn the gain up on the clean channel, until I get the bite that I want, and roll the master volume down to a suitable level, and EQ/Touch up as necessary.

  • Dude! Looks good!

  • I'm not following what you're saying, two channel amp?

  • My amp has 2 channels, but I run my pedals into the clean channel, then just add gain to that clean sound, if I want more bite. A clean sound really does receive pedals best, in my opinion, much better than messing around with doing anything fancy and intricate with your amp.

  • In some cases, it may even be a good Idea to run your pedals into the cab directly, ignoring channels, through a MP3 in, or the like. Depends on what pedals you're using, and how your amp settings affect your tone. Mine don't affect my tone hugely, because I mainly EQ using my pedals.

  • My clean sound is a quite aggressive cranked Fender sound, it does colour overdrive pedals more than they're probably supposed to be but it's my sound and I guess I'm stuck with it... :)

  • I really wanna do this mod to my Champ 600, sounds freakin' amazin'...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVGWICF5-i8

  • I mean, how cranked your overdrive pedal ought to be depends on your musical genre. For reference, I play blues-rock and metal

  • One band I play in is full on cranked Marshall, that's easy... My other band isn't any one genre, just noisy, minimal stuff... No rockist trappings... The guitar either sounds super fuzzy or like knives scraping on steel...

  • Mmmmmmm.... rockist trappings...

  • Having a bit of an unused gear cull...any interest in some bass gear on here before I head to ebay?

    Fuzzrocious Demon with the gated hi gain mod, I used it on bass but think its nicer on guitar.

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    Orange OBC410 cabinet. 600w 8ohm with a switchable horn. Not much to say about these really...is very loud and very heavy!

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  • Rockism is such hard work... Lazy guitar playing roolz...

  • Managed to do a bit of recording on a new tune yesterday but i'm so rusty that I'm 90% sure i'll end up re-doing it. Already started out doing it on the Guild, then changed my mind and re-did it on the Sigma. Now pretty sure the Guild sounds better. Meh. It needs to be better played either way though. It's hard to get the right sloppy/swingy feel over a metronomic electronic beat without it just sounding "wrong".

    I'm also massively dithering about arrangement in general. I definitely have tendency to add too many layers just because I can. Really trying to get away from that and make sure things are recorded with more care and not overly processed. I'm not sure i'm quite living up to my own aspirations yet.

    Lastly, I think with picked parts (like this one is) I need to have the courage to just have one main guitar in the verses and introduce other elements (strummed parts and banjo) in the choruses. At the moment i think it's too busy.

    Looking forward to having a bit of time to myself to have another go at it this weekend.

  • This is amazing... Apparently my mate is being featured next month with his band, Los Coyote Men... Cannot fucking wait to see him talk us through his 70s MIJ bolt-on neck Epi Wilshire with one of the pickups taken out... Priceless, it will be...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVOlAPVO7tM&list=RDRVOlAPVO7tM#t=0
    &v=RVOlAPVO7tM#t=0

  • YES! I don't think Los Straitjackets need much of a rig rundown other than HOLY SHIT THOSE GUITARS but man i'm looking fwd to hearing this. That tune New Siberia is ballsout.

  • God that rig rundown guy is such a twat. He reminds me of Fred Willard in best in Show or the dad from Modern Family. Crrrrringe.

    Los Straightjackets seem very fucken cool though. Fender(of sorts) + Fender plus reverb and tremolo still does it for me.

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