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the only way to do anything at all in this election is to vote Labour.
I disagree. Yes, it is vital that Labour do not loose more seats in their traditional heartlands. I predict this will be difficult as many voted Leave and the Conservatives have outflanked them on the living wage and tax threshold.
It is equally vital that the Lib Dems take all the seats they can from the Tories.
IMO the biggest challenge is that the Brexit vote always splits the election votes in favour of the Tories:
- Voted Leave? Vote Tory. Result: Labour seats go Tory.
- Tory remainer? Vote Tory.
- Lib Dem remainer? Vote Lib Dem. Result: Split Labour.
- Lab remainer? Vote Lib Dem or Labour. Result: Neutral or split Labour.
The Liberals...are not credible and have shown that they are a party of personal promotion rather than policy.
I'm not sure I understand what that actually means.
- Voted Leave? Vote Tory. Result: Labour seats go Tory.
hugo7-
If you do look at the vote in terms of Brexit - rather than party - then you could say this:
- Voted 'Leave' then you should probably support the Tories (as they are 'getting on with it')
- Voted 'Remain' then you should cast your vote against the Tories
You're either voting for what is (in effect) the status quo OR something/anything else. Whatever that alternative happens to be arguably doesn't matter. But that will be a difficult step for some (especially those who have reason to dislike particular parties).
- Voted 'Leave' then you should probably support the Tories (as they are 'getting on with it')
boristrump
I am a long way from being a Corbynista but acknowledge that the only way to do anything at all in this election is to vote Labour. I apppreciate that Labour are likely to lose but this election is not about who will win but the size and nature of the opposition.
It is unlikely that Momentum will be able to enforce reselction of all candidates before the election, although this has been threatened. If they achieved that, they could also achieve a wipe out at this election. As such, the MPs who are returned for Labour will shape the oppostion in the future. Although Corbyn is unlikely to resign if he loses, he will not stay for a full five years. Who replaces him will, largely, be determined by who is returned for Labour.
The Liberals, with the strangely homophobic Farron, are not credible and have shown that they are a party of personal promotion rather than policy. Corbyn, for all his faults, is sincere.
And who knows. One thing that is certain is that we are undergoing a massive political upheaval. Traditional party loyalties are gone. While the polls suggest one thing, in reality, anything could happen. It might be a forlorn hope but there is a scintilla of hope.