General Election June 2017

He hasn't really shown any interest in listening to his critics so I strongly suspect he will cling on to 'power' like an irrelevant 100-year-old barnacle.

...and May has only given them 7 weeks to do it. With a decent run up they might have been able to mobilise more support but I can't see them being in a position to do much of significance from where they are now. Possibly take back a couple of the remoaning London seats as they did in Richmond...

Another aspect that this article ...

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/tories-plot-to-dump-promise-to-slash-number-of-mps-a3517871.html

... has only just reminded me of is that the boundary review hasn't been implemented and the election will therefore be run on the old boundaries. No idea what exactly this will result in, but it has been said quite often that the new boundaries would give Labour a massive disadvantage, so perhaps this helps their chances slightly.

The Guardian view: theguardian.com/commentisfre­e/2017/apr/18/the-guardian-view-on-the-2­017-general-election-a-poll-that-britain­-does-not-need

In short, this general election is uncalled for and Corbyn and Farrow should not agree to it. It only serves May's and the Tory party's opportunism.

If you agree, do all you can to lobby those party leaders before the vote, even if only via Twitter #nogeneralelection

Lots of people thought May should call an election after she became PM.

The Conservatives currently have no mandate to lead given their changes in direction and leadership. If Labour hadn't had a couple of failed coups and could pretend it knew what they were doing, would you still feel the same?

Of course the timing is tactical. But calling an election is always tactical. Brown didn't because the thinking was the blowback from Blair and Iraq would loose seats (in hindsight they were wrong and the Financial Crisis happened).

I bet even North Korea let you have power points in your bathroom...

I know you're not serious but
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39307418

Seriously wtf. Sounds like the guy was resting a four gang extension thing on his chest. In a bath.

At least one good thing is coming out of this ...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/19/george-osborne-to-stand-down-as-mp-for-now

amazing.

Did you read that article?

"Mr Bull is believed to have plugged his charger into an extension cord from the hallway..."

This is what I have to do to shave. No wonder I'm so fucking hairy.

He would be alive if he had a socket in his bathroom...

Maybe.

Anyway it's a Home DIY thread 'joke'.

Not a joke, I'm getting a fucking bathroom socket.

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/854661238663430146

Yvette Cooper: "Isn't the truth we cannot believe a single word she says?" #PMQs pic.twitter.com/pxOMuRJEgA

— Sky News (@SkyNews) April 19, 2017

Then that's the short term or something

Yvette Cooper, quaintly, appears to believe that truth matters in politics.

Smack

and

Pow

You're drawing this out more and more. :)

the only way to do anything at all in this election is to vote Labour.

I disagree. Yes, it is vital that Labour do not loose more seats in their traditional heartlands. I predict this will be difficult as many voted Leave and the Conservatives have outflanked them on the living wage and tax threshold.

It is equally vital that the Lib Dems take all the seats they can from the Tories.

IMO the biggest challenge is that the Brexit vote always splits the election votes in favour of the Tories:

• Voted Leave? Vote Tory. Result: Labour seats go Tory.
  
• Tory remainer? Vote Tory.
  
• Lib Dem remainer? Vote Lib Dem. Result: Split Labour.
  
• Lab remainer? Vote Lib Dem or Labour. Result: Neutral or split Labour.
  
  

The Liberals...are not credible and have shown that they are a party of personal promotion rather than policy.

I'm not sure I understand what that actually means.

Indeed.
Has she not see House of Cards? Maybe someone should show her.

If you do look at the vote in terms of Brexit - rather than party - then you could say this:

• Voted 'Leave' then you should probably support the Tories (as they are 'getting on with it')
  
• Voted 'Remain' then you should cast your vote against the Tories
  
  

You're either voting for what is (in effect) the status quo OR something/anything else. Whatever that alternative happens to be arguably doesn't matter. But that will be a difficult step for some (especially those who have reason to dislike particular parties).

If you voted remain, you should cast you vote for Lib Dem.
They are the only 'credible' party to support staying in the EU.

I'd love to vote green.

lib dems:

• creepy homophobe in charge.

• would jump at the chance to form another coalition with the tories (quite how you square this away with them being able to keep us in the EU is anyone's guess)

• tuition fees

yeah no thanks. knock yourself out, tho.

Quite. The lib dems have burned a generation. I couldn't tactically vote for them.

I'll be voting green for the incremental gains and progressive alliance.

Yes I was trolling you. Seriously though you're going to get a 'shaver's only' one I hope.

Greens do something intelligent which Lab and Lib will probably reject.

independent.co.uk/news/uk/pol­itics/progressive-alliance-greens-labour­-lib-dems-anti-tory-pact-a7689986.html

Shame if Lab and Lib eject such a plan. Based on the theory that the friend of my enemy is my friend. This could really change the game should they agree. Which they won't as you say

Why do you think that?

I don't see Corbyn as someone who would cling onto power.

He probably thinks that because so far Corbyn has clung onto power despite effectively destroying the Labour party by making them so unelectable nobody things they have a bat in hell's chance of winning this election. That and having personal approval ratings on a par with Donald Trump.

Just going out on a limb there...

The very moment he walked onto the deck his whole crew started taking hatchets to the hull and screaming that it was his fault they were getting wet. Bunch of irredeemable cunts.

Tempted to vote Labour as it'll probably be the last time we ever get a chance to, but can't imagine doing it.

Why are Labour being viewed as an anti-Brexit party? I'm fairly sure they've said that they support the outcome of the referendum and Corbyn obviously isn't a huge Europhile.