General Election June 2017

just been forwarded this quick ref guide for voting against the tories: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19_yf4RL133fBKscvSbID4eRKwztzY9KSI_2BMaI1bU8/htmlview?sle=true#

Not sure of its provenance or accuracy, but might be handy...

http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/tv-debates-could-be-crucial-in-deciding-2017-snap-general-election-but-only-if-broadcasters-can-persuade-may-to-take-part/

To be fair to him, his voting stance on gay rights is clear. He's always voted in support. So what his personal belives are, has not affected his voting.

Does that make it ok though?

We're all free to do or belive what we want.

To be fair to him, his voting stance on gay rights is clear. He's always voted in support. So what his personal belives are, has not affected his voting.

Not quite

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/17/tim-farron-regrets-abstention-gay-marriage-vote

http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/division.php?date=2007-03-19&number=79&showall=yes#Farron

For now......

Didn't see that 2nd one before. Odd.

True, but if they didn't vote in the Brexit referendum are they going to vote in the general election.

Corbyn has said a number of times that one of his tactics is to get the non-voting public to vote for him but he's been fairly short on details as to how (and there aren't any suggestions that there are a huge number of untapped labour voters out there, the non-voters are meant to be fairly evenly split on party lines).

It may work, part of Trump's success was abandoning areas he wouldn't win and focusing on getting more voters out in his areas of support, but Labour haven't really harnessed the public interest to get people out and voting for them.

Dimbleby just called it on R4 - "this is the final election in the shock trilogy". Cameron landslide in 2015, brexit in 2016, ??????? In 2017?

UKIP??! I'm moving to North Korea. At least they test their weapons nice and frequently.

I think the whole 'untapped Labour vote' idea comes from the fact that the age group least likely to vote Conservative (18-25) is also least likely to turn out.

But from my experience working with this age group, there's also a lot of don't cares/nihilists in this age range who probably wouldn't give a shit anyway.

For the Scottish referendum, turnout was higher among 16 and 17 year olds.

Nailed the point.
https://theintercept.com/2017/04/18/british-prime-minister-wants-election-now-cost-brexit-becomes-clear/

Less than a year in, maybe effectively only 6 months of conferring & pre-negotiations the sharp edge Tories, the lamentable Fox, the useless davies & the execrable dePfeffel, the Maybot, and all the behind the scenes career-long brexitters have come to the conclusion that Brexit will be a shambles.
There can be no 'just walk away option', Dover will have hgv queues back to the M25 as the EU offers no quick alternative to the Customs Union.
There can be no immediate stop to the Freedom of Movement, British Agriculture will leave thousands of tonnes of crops unpicked without EU labour.
The City of London will not be allowed by the EU to continue to be the main exchange for Euro-denominated trades.
The Treasury does not have enough money to allow May to issue 'Nissan' letters to every manufacturer.
The haste to send notification of Article 50 in March 2017 means that the Tories would be going to the polls in 2020, 15 or 16 months after Brexit, with the UK economy in chaos.

Clearly the Tory strategists believe an additional 2 years, and in all probability a change of leadership, may be enough to mount a credible campaign in 2022.

What's the chances for a hung parliament to really fuck the country up..

The Guardian view: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/18/the-guardian-view-on-the-2017-general-election-a-poll-that-britain-does-not-need

In short, this general election is uncalled for and Corbyn and Farrow should not agree to it. It only serves May's and the Tory party's opportunism.

If you agree, do all you can to lobby those party leaders before the vote, even if only via Twitter #nogeneralelection

It seems pretty inevitable, but in truth it shouldn't be - May's actions should be much more strongly opposed. One of the problems with Jeremy I suppose.

Don't be scared, your dream's right there

I bet even North Korea let you have power points in your bathroom...

Gonna need a lot of rope...

We may be reading too much into the tactical side of things. Perhaps May is only showing the same sorts of vanity that made Trump fret about loosing the popular vote weeks after anyone else had stopped caring.
May may have realised that she just won't have the strength to run for an election following years of the sleepless nights that typically comes with brinkmanship style negotiations.
Her only chance to enter British history books as an elected PM might be now.

ok! it seems the mail want 48% of the electorate killed off.

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Edited?!

yeah, on closer inspection it appeared i put a potatochopped pic up by mistake which seemed slightly unfair to Le May.

https://twitter.com/pencilbandit/status/854279858456756224

And it seems the Sun is keen on murder