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Kidneys-
Hahaha. . . That's got to be the worst example you could have used! :)
When you place something on a rock, its still just a rock... But if as the all knowing Mr William Harkin claims. . . That over the centuries people learned to carve them for themselves. . . Then again, it just shows that whoever the first one of these carvers was to specifically carve something to specifically place their things on. . . Was the person who did indeed 'invent' the shelf! :)
user67649
At the end of the day, the carradice support is for a completely different type of saddlebag, is a completely different shape, and mounts in a completely different way to the porcelain rocket Mr Fusion support...
The Mack support is for exactly the same type of saddlebag, is exactly the same shape, and mounts in exactly the same way as the porcelain rocket Mr Fusion support... It really isn't (porcelain) rocket science! :)
Just give credit where it's due.
Anyway... Back to bikepacking business... i'm off my soapbox now! :)