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• #877
Heads up, don't buy from an_outdoor_outlet
Ordered a wheel, turned up in a really tatty box with holes in and a bent rim like some one stood on it, they were really unhelpful resolving it, took over 2 weeks to get a refund and they were not willing to send me another wheel, customer service was awful
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• #878
So, the money has left my bank and Paypal accounts, I have a confirmation email from echeques and the guy is still claiming he doesn't have his money. eBay confirmed over a week ago that everything at my end is sorted.
I've just noticed his eBay account is registered in the U.K., the postal address is in oz and today he's sending screen grabs from eBay.hk
Obviously people move around for business all the time which could explain that but it's really starting to feel very iffy. He also changed his username mid way through the whole debacle. I can imagine all these inconsistencies could lead to a delay in receiving his refund but it also looks dodgy on his side.
Oh and he's also received -feedback for sending people the wrong stuff then going silent.
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• #879
Do I just ignore the guy now?
I think I would. If he wants to open a Paypal dispute, he can. I would assume they would then review and close it in your favour.
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• #880
Ta for that. I'll send him screen grabs of all the confirmations then ignore.
A cyclotouriste chainset seems an odd item to scam someone over which is why I suspect he's an idiot not actually a scammer but who knows. -
• #881
Tell him to contact Paypal and stop bugging you: it's their problem, not yours.
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• #882
I think most fraud on Marketplaces like amazon/ebay now happens through people trying it on and asking people to bypass the payment protection systems that are in place-i.e sending payment to a different address/ issuing a refund without going through the ebay process etc.
Sounds like this guy might want you to voluntarily send payment again/send it to another address because he's putting the guilts on you-either way the change of ID is a definite red flag. There seems to be lots of accounts getting hacked on Amazon atm with items listed at much lower prices and a 'shipping not available to all locations, email first for confirmation' tag on the seller ID.
As scilly says-if he was legit he would be getting in touch with Paypal and not you, and he wouldn't have sent the item if he genuinely didn't receive payment to begin with so I'd ignore him.
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• #883
I had the exact same issue recently, sold a computer, guy pays with eCheque, sends a screen shot as proof which links to ebay.hk, continually acts clueless and the eCheque fails so I cancel the whole deal. I'd be careful, though similarly this guy just seemed really clueless
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• #884
What is an eCheque anyway?
An antiquated, pedestrian method of payment, er... sent electronically?
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• #885
So echeque was used as when I issued the guy his refund there wasn't enough funds in my Paypal. Echeque is the system used to take funds from my bank account on PayPals behalf.
I'm the seller in this case.I'm just gonna ignore the tosser
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• #886
this guy's reselling a Caad3 frame I returned to him because it was damaged, rear OLD down to 113mm from 130mm. this is after I told him that Argos told me it was eminently dangerous to ride. Avoid.
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• #887
Found a stereo on ebay that I've been after for a couple of years - first one I've seen come up.
It's based in Middlesborough and I'm London. Seller will not post, and is being a total douche, he won't even box it for me to arrange a courier to collect.
Are there any couriers that will go and collect and box something for you too?? Failing that I may even look to get the train up, but I'm not sure I'll be able to carry it..
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• #888
Just got a warning from eBay about making deals outside of eBay. Seems like they have something which checks messages you send, never had any issues before...
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• #889
Had a few of those before nothing came of it so don't worry
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• #890
Was it that you'd tried sending someone your email address or something?
I had this and tried about 20 ways to circumnavigate it, splitting email address up, typing 'at' instead of '@' etc. Got the warning every time and eventually gave up.
Tldr, don't stress it, nothing will come of it.
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• #891
Yes, I think they've changed their system recently because it used to block you from sending any email in a message. This time it let me do it and the message sent. They've likely just found a way to check messages with emails in
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• #892
Can't speculate on the douche bit, but letting the buyer arrange a courier is risky business for a seller. For all they know, you could be a complete cunt who arranges collection, gets the item...and then opens a case saying you didn't receive the item and demand a refund. They then indeed don't have any proof that they sent it to you - they lose their money and their item.
What was the ad, cash on collection or did they state delivery options?
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• #893
Cheers for the reply, yeah cash on collection. I've sent him some pretty polite emails trying to persuade him as much as possible to help me out on this, and just got basically two word responses. If he can't be bothered with I guess that's fair enough. I even offered to pay him considerably more than I know what this going to end for, but he's not bothered. It's got one bid at 40 quid and it's ending early Monday evening which isn't great timing for him, I'd have probably stretched to 200 quid for it before podtage. He'll prob get a 100 max. Never mind , I just know it may be a year or two before I find another
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• #894
You can get to Middlesbrough and back on the train or even hire a car and cover the fuel for less than the £100 you're prepared to over pay. Go and get it.
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• #895
There used to be a fella on here who'd collect things for you for the price of transport as he enjoyed travelling by train. I've never used him and can't for the life of me remember his name though
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• #898
@Trunkie @Scilly.Suffolk @andyp it could be too late to sort this - but cheers guys - amazing!
@Hefty I have thought about all this, but renting a car and petrol definitely isn't cheaper, and train is a bit of a ball ache cos it's actually in a village outside middlseborough, and I can't get there this weekend! (Plus train fare is prob more than you think).
Cheers all
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• #899
I always use anyvan.com for this kind of jobs. They request quotes from multiple courier (man and a van type not the corporates) and you can enter the ebay item number so they know what to expect. It works a treat, depending on how far and how much the item cost. It also depends on timing. if you find someone who ends up doing that exact route he would charge you very little.
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• #900
Just had a buyer refuse to pay for an item, silly bugger forget he gave me his phone number when he bought it so was a bit surprised when I phoned him up just now and pointed out it's an auction, which he won. Instantly resolved.
If you want to be a shyster don't use your own, very unique name as your username!
Not ebay but bought a PC on Amazon-I know, evil but it was through their marketplace and £200 cheaper than the next vendor-yesterday, paid, all good.
Sale then cancelled today and I get an email from vendor saying that the account had been hacked and "hundreds of items listed" but that Amazon was sanitising the account.
Why would anyone do this and is my personal info potentially at risk?