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I don't know, the budget SMP Extra have been plentiful despite being utterly ugly.
For the price point, my view is that if you managed to find THE saddle, then that alone is priceless.
The SMP Hell isn't a great saddle, it look like it should but for some reason it was uncomfortable, I think the amount of padding on a plastic shell flex too much and put too much pressure on nerve.
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I've had quite unpleasant experiences too with smp hell. While it had the padding on it was too much a sofa and when stripped shape is close to smp dynamic which didnt work for me either. I find them too narrow and couldnt set it up without feeling I was constantly slipping forward or "through" the saddle. Not enough support. Composit is just phenomenally good for me.
negaatio
I was upset to discover that my posterior has a preference for the fake over the genuine. Until now I cannot get on with my Composit but my carbon fake is great (so long as i'm wearing bibs).
It's been said may a time but the pricing of SMPs is pretty obscene-I wanted to support the genuine article so bought a 'mid range' Hell for the best part of £90 and it looked and felt like a £20 saddle so I sent it back. I then bought a Composit from Germany 'on sale' at £100, which isn't as comfy as the fake. Until that changes I think most folk won't spunk £180 on any saddle if they can buy much the same object for 15% of the price.
I'm wanting a couple of second hand TRKs just to shove on my commuters without fear of getting them nicked or the need to wear bibs.