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thanks @mattioats & @Jonny69 & others. Sounds like worth trying them out then. Seems like mixed reviews on the DZR's. I'm used to riding in toe clips and trainers so these might not be the stiffest shoes in the world, but will be much stiffer than what I am used to I expect.
Found the Rumble's cheap here:
https://www.sigmasport.co.uk/item/Giro/Rumble-VR-Mountain-Cycling-Shoes/841G
£57 including shipping with code "new5" on checkout :D
(would buy in store, but didn't find any bike shops stocking them)
Will leave some feedback after I get them