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  • To be honest, they're not bad, they're just not Shimano.

    Aren't you just pissed off at Hope because you bought some really old second hand Hopes cheap and then wondered why they didn't work?

    Or was that someone else?

  • I've bought some pretty old and some pretty new (but not brand new) Hopes and none of them have been amazing.

    I've also bought a variety of ages of used Shimano brakes and found them better.

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