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  • I haven't tried it yet, I only every do Z3/4+ stuff on the turbo but it sounds like I am being ambitious attempting it in the morning. I never do Z2 on turbo because so boring.

    I think I'll try the DIY energy drinks @skinny suggested and give it a go next week.

  • yeh, some people are ok with it. i used to be but seem to have lost my ability to do it in the last year or so (or maybe i'm just going soft).

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