Can you help to identify these frames, bikes or parts?

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anidel in reply to @kjlem

Forks most likely are not the correct one.

Those wrap over seat stays might help to identify it as the lugs are quite standard.

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kjlem in reply to @anidel

I guess you are right about the forks.
The lugs look like prugnat 62s.

They start using them in the 70's I read, but the brazed on derailleur clamp indicates its from the 80's no?

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anidel in reply to @kjlem

And the cables under the BB indicates post 85 roughly.
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Vamanos in reply to @kjlem

It's nice enough to be a late 70s Holdsworth too, as they used the Prugnat lugset. Are there any long serials or just the 188 under the bb shell?

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