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  • Which Surly? The Mash has a lot shorter tt, high bb and more over lap and basically still feels like a track frame, Surly's felt more laid back and generally more functional as you can fit mudguards and racks, but as for general road buzz comfort they feel no different

  • Well it's got better brakes than the 'roller and geometry is different, but you probably know more about that than i do

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