• This whole affair has been much more complicated than I'd expected. I thought it'd be much more straight forward and that there'd be more choice in the market. There is the idea mentioned of a huge BB axle, but I was hoping to stick with external cups.

    I can't really thing of any alternatives to a NBD. I've semi-settled on the idea of the 853 version, but even then I can't find any in stock - I think I'd prefer the green version with the QR fork.

    I've e-mailed Orlowski, but no response so far, but think Brexit may have made buying a frame in Euros not such the easy answer it was a year or so ago.

    Another thing I've failed to turn up is any real comparison between the NBD and NB853 in terms of weight, stiffness, real world difference when riding.

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