Audax rides

Very helpful, and very kind, thanks.

Nope.

Can you do that? ie. use 2x200 as a 400? I guess if it was a DIY it might work but then does a DIY with loops count for AAA SR awards?

I mentioned before that you had a hyper AAA SR last year.

Nearly.

Yes you did that badge last year. Congratulations. You just have to claim it.

I was being silly :)
I guess it could work as a DIY by GPS, although there may be some fine print in the AUK rules forbidding the use of loops (in which case just ride the route again in reverse? :trollface:).

Otherwise, as there are a provision of AAA 200 not too far from London, one could do a 200, then another but twice (ECE-ing the second run), etc.

I'm still being silly.

You can't ride the same road in the same direction more than once (although in practice no one cares about a few hundred meters between junctions).

I've ridden a 200k which was the London Sightseer clockwise then anti-clockwise. But 2x clockwise would have been against the rules.

If the route starts and finishes in the same place it should be AAA in either direction!

Do the north side of the island first. If you're in a bunch the second half (south) will fly by as its pretty much all flat.

sorry...I stand corrected....just need a way to justify my peanut butter addiction...

That's the plan:

https://www.strava.com/routes/7879259

Just the two of us but we'll hopefully find some wheels to suck.

How can you be billy big balls if you're missing out the leg to Cap Formentor?

Yeah, I remember you talking about it which is why I want to do one.

What's a hyper? Is that where you do the whole thing with 600s?

My curiosity is: when you knowledgeable folk say 'eat', what kind of quantity are we talking about? Let's say I eat every hour, how much are we talking about? A couple handfuls of trail mix? More?

What Hippy said, but I just aim for 300 cal per hour, mostly from carbohydrate. That is the most your stomach can absorb, so no point eating more.

The AAA one? Awww, but I wanted to do it properly not by accident :D

Yeah, I thought there was a rule about loops. It's why I never bothered to claim all the mileage I did up and down A roads for training as audax points :)

Fat is a good way to get a lot of calories in but it's not what I would use while riding. I would tend to go for a fattier meal before going to sleep - you aren't working so your body can digest it and you get some nutrients other than sugar sugar sugar.

You know there's a sportive that does a loop of the island. I'm pretty sure it had a gpx of the course. I was going to do it one day. See the Majorca thread.

What I race on is 90g CHO x 4cal/g = 360 cal and some people have done well at Ironman racing on 120g/hr = 480cal. So I'm not sure I'd limit myself to 300 if I could get away with more.

Interesting. I expect you've looked into it more than me. I researched it a bit after doing my first 24 and realised I had no clue how much I should eat, nor did my helper. I found the 300 cal number and have latched onto that since. Gs of CHO is better but I find it easier to guestimate how many cals in x. I've used that on all my long TTS and audaxes since and never bonked. Obvs 300 (or 480) is only an average so different people can metabolise more. Ideally I shd experiment to see how I go with more, but never have got round to it.

I'm loving this, thanks. Looking forward to experimenting with it on next month's ride. I can already sense it'll be a LOT more food than I'm used to, which is really encouraging. I do bonk badly sometimes, and it'd be discouraging to find out I was eating enough already.

(by the way good luck on the IPWR, huge respect for attempting it, nevermind finishing)

I'm sure it varies person to person - I've got a sample size of 1 here. But I'd not put hard limits on anything like that. It was only recently the US (I think) updated their guidelines on athlete carb intake to 60g/hr (even though much more is possible with different carb types).

One interesting thing is that body shape has little impact on ability to process carbs - a guy like me could use less than a 50kg woman. It's very individual.

Once I get my British service station feeding down I'm going to have to look at what's commonly available in US service stations and then maybe try some of that. Should be interesting experiment :)

What's commonly available in us service stations? Obesity and a wide selection of interesting diseases, i believe.

Well, I think cycling ~7000k across the country should stop me getting any fatter. Not sure about diseases though. I thought the packaged food could withstand nuclear attack?