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cool, I'm not a fan of the ortlieb, bit too flouro for my liking, but I do like the build quality on them, and the adjustability of them to get them on racks and avoid heel strike.
If you have any more thoughts let me know, Amazon says they weight 1.2 kg, but I'm not sure if that's singly or the pair..
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I was inspecting these this very morning as a coworker has them.
Seem very sturdy, well built and reinforced/welded. The fabric seems thicker than Ortlieb classic, not sure how they compare in weight. He only bought them few months back, so far he could only vouch for waterproofness, not had them long enough to talk about durability.