Road Wheels & Road Wheel Recommendations?

Yep, I understand that the shop will try to upsell me. Its as much my own preconceptions that cartridge bearings are longer lasting than those used in the XT. Partly down to negative experience with the kinesis hubs themselves, which are poorly sealed

my own preconceptions that cartridge bearings are longer lasting than those used in the XT. Partly down to negative experience with the kinesis hubs

Don't the Kinesis hubs use generic industrial cartridge bearings, just as Hope do?

Cup and cone bearings allow more and/or bigger balls in the same space, so leaving the sealing arrangements aside for the moment, they last longer given the same manufacturing quality because they run at a lower fraction of their maximum load. Hub manufacturers who tout their cartridge bearings are mostly trying to make a virtue out of a necessity, because they lack the resources to manufacture bearings so they buy them in as cartridge assemblies which are easy to integrate into simplified hub shell designs.

My mistake, indeed they do. Any recommendations on rims to to with hubs? Tyres will be 35 to 40mm wide

Any recommendations on rims to to with hubs?

You probably want the wheelbuilding thread rather than this one, that's where hand build selections rather than factory wheels get discussed in more detail.

Something with an internal width of 21-25mm is what you should be looking at to go with 35-40mm tyres.

I had factory in mind at first, but hand built seems to offer best bang for buck

I've got the Bora One 50mm tubulars and I've loved them on the 4/5 rides so far.

Just about to pull the trigger on some Quattros for training after I killed a Ksyrium on some bad roads in Vietnam. I always thought they were bombproof but turns out there is a limit.

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Buy my JRA Jawbone, I'll probably never use it.

Oh does 6-bolt matter? Mine's got CentreLock hub.

Scratch that, I just checked and it says "24h CXRay"

Thanks for the offer, but 24h is probably a no go for me. 6 bolt is purely to match the front wheel, I've no real objection to centreLock. Out of interest how much are you looking for?

£140

Thanks for the responses all. Anyone riding Bora clinchers?

Yep. Bora one 50. I've only had them 4 months or so but they ride great. So smooth.
They look boss too, which is really why I bought them.

@Sumo I've ordered those £61 cosine wheels for my project, will report back.

Wheel rebuild by Zipp. I just took my 3 wheels down to Evans, got a receipt, Evans rang about 6 weeks later, I went and picked them up all rebuilt and everything. All jolly straightforward. And big kudos to Evans, as none of the wheels were bought from them.

My LBS (the only Zipp dealer within ~50miles) want £40 to process the recalled hub. Am I being a cunt in thinking that's a bit steep.

That's their way of telling you they don't want to do it.

Very true. Should they not happily take on this responsibility as a retailer of fucking expensive wheels though?

They probably are obliged to so I'd have words with them and/or Zipp again.

Zipp will refund the store so I don't see how they can charge for it. That's part and parcel of being a brand's dealer.

Oh and feel free to name and shame if they don't back down.

Zipp will refund the store so I don't see how they can charge for it. That's part and parcel of being a brand's dealer.

That was my take on it too. I've emailed Zipp and the UK Distributor to see if either of them can sort me out instead of the LBS. I have a cardboard wheel box and a printer - All I need is a postage-paid address label...

Depends on your ability to kick up a stink with whoever it is who distributes SRAM / Zipps.

It may be that they are chummy with them and won't give any shits.

Crush them.

Zipp will refund the store so I don't see how they can charge for it. That's part and parcel of being a brand's dealer.

Smaller shops have ways around this, that from their point of view, are kinda reasonable.

Example: Evans bulk buys Zipps at a discounted rate. LBSco only gets them on special orders so pays more. Both shops are paid the same for dealing with miserable warranty recall shit.

LBSco will happily do the work for people who bought the Zipps from them. Customer relationship is their lifeblood. They will charge the people who didn't buy from them, and if the only interaction you have with them is to use them as a recall center, they will charge you a fair wack.

I guess that's a fair get out for them. Generally Zipp wouldn't be selling to another retailer nearby though so it's unlikely the wheel was bought from a close-by Evans. What if someone bought it elsewhere and moved? Why should they not be able to use Zipp's retailer services?

Also, on the other hand LBSco loses goodwill/footfall because they don't help Zipp customers so they're kind of pushing people away anyway with this kind of behaviour.

I bought mine online and CRC were shit and slow when it came to the recall.

Generally Zipp wouldn't be selling to another retailer nearby

I thought anyone with a Zyro account can get them. I don't think they do that zoning thing over here.

Why should they not be able to use Zipp's retailer services?

Yeah. It kinda sucks. People buy online through the cheapest (or used), and then end up taking crap recall jobs to local shops because they are convenient. It makes sense, but the shops hate it, and the money is in selling the bloody things, not posting them back to the mothership.

FWIW when I used a London shop - the one that wasn't completely fucking mental - to sort out my Cannondale F-Si disaster I paid in dorrah and in beer.

I'm not sure, I just remember the dealer zoning thing in Oz.

I guess it's within the rights of the shop to refuse custom but then they would need to be careful they weren't breaching any agreement they'd made when they became a Zipp dealer.

I try to support my LBS but they moved to Newbury :P
I now send a bit more business to Woolsey in Acton. They've helped me fix a few things.

No. Zipp reimburse them for postage and for replacing a tub if it's got a tub fitted. The rest is part of their responsibility as a Zipp dealer. I'd get in touch with Zipp customer services and ask if the dealer should be charging. Zipp CS tend to respond pretty promptly in my experience, and should make it clear that it should be done free and gratis.

Thanks Dan, I fired an email off to 'support@zipp.zendesk.com' - Is that who you have used?

Respect to Hargroves Cycles (not the LBS I mentioned before) who have responded to say they can do it for me for gratis. I just need to get the wheel to them, which is a 40min train journey and an obligatory bike ride back.