Kinesis Aithein - disc brak r def

So my brother has decided he's going to do an Olympic triathlon soon and wants to do some road cycling as well. He started sending me links to rather expensive and fancy bikes, but being a thrifty man, I poo-pooed that idea and had a quick peek on here. I immediately spotted @macaroon's Kinesis Aithein for sale thread.

I'm a big fan of my 4S disc and really like the look of the Aithein, so suggested it'd be a good choice and it looked to be about the right size for him, he's 6'4" and it's a 59cm (if it works for Bruce Dalton...). One thing that macaroon noted was that there's only enough steerer for a completely slammed stem. Should look good and my bro's young enough to still be flexible.

So the plan is for a bright orange 59cm frame, slammed, with plenty of seatpost and all parts black. I'm hoping it'll look pretty good.

So, with macaroon getting the frame in the post and my brother telling me he was completely uninterested in picking parts for it (apart from deep carbon wheels, he definitely wants those), he left me to piece together parts and work out a build.

As I mentioned previously, I'm a thrifty man and feel especially responsible about not buying him anything too shit, but also not pissing away his money needlessly.

With that in mind, the purchased parts list looks like this, so far:

Kinesis Aithein 59cm
Cosine 24mm cheapo wheels
Vittoria Rubino 3 folding 25c tyres
Deda RHM02 bars (44cm)
Deda bar tape (black)
Pro Tharsis alloy seatpost (placeholder until we work out fit, cheapest 31.6 post I could find)

Still to buy:
Shimano 105 5800 groupset
Stem (dunno, I've got a few spares kicking around so we'll see what fits him. Long-term, probably a black on black Deda)
Saddle (dunno, something from the parts box to start with - I've got a black Romin Evo Expert lying around)
CN*carbon 50mm clinchers of some kind.

What else am I missing? Anything else I'll need?

Trying to imagine this with Cosine and eBay carbon wheels - is it a trike with a spare wheel?

are you tired of disc brakes and want to get back to rim brakes for the joy of riding and weight and more aerodynamics? Yeah? Me too :D

change the thread title to 'disc brakes are dead III'.

jk trollin obv

Haha, the Cosine's are shit weather/getting it up and running asap wheels. The deep crabonz are for bling/summer/race.

Yes, it appears whoever makes olympic triathlon rules has been following your thread closely, Amey. Whenever I go for a ride with my bro, I'll be watching him enviously as he enjoys himself at least 10 times as much as I do on my shitty old disc brakes :'(

I'll be watching him enviously as he enjoys himself at least 10 times as much as I do on my shitty old disc brakes :'(

you deserve it

Title updated ;)

Really like these. Crit beasts.

Look forward to seeing it built: you should have it tomorrow!

I think the slammed stem will be fine, afterall, the headtube is pretty long. As long as he can get a reasonable rotation in his pelvis, then saddle/bar drop isn't really an issue.

I'd got hold of a Fizik 140mm stem and matching carbon seatpost for my brother's build (he's a shade over 6'4"); they're decent bits of kit. I've got a Fizik post on my bike, don't think I'd bother with anything else these days.

If you want a lower stack stem then Deda, Thomson, FSA (and probably a few others) are the ones to look at. Avoid Ritchey (quite a tall stack); I also trialled an old Pro Vibe on it (44mm stack) and it was a bit too tall. Alternatively, you could try a lower stack top cap/compression ring.

You'll need an inline barrel adjuster for the front mech (I don't think the frame has them fitted).

Also, if he hasn't got any cycling shoes yet, I bought some of these recently. Seem pretty good for the money, although I've only used them on the trainer.

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/dmt-libra-road-shoes/rp-prod150016

Go a full size up.

Cheers! I've got a spare inline barrel adjuster somewhere - good point about that though.

I've got a 130mm Deda Zero 2 stem that was a little stretched out for me, but could work for him, think that's 37 or 38mm stack. Yeah if it's too high, could just go proper pro and run the stem straight on top of the bearings :)

He's got Giro SPD shoes already, which'll do for now. I've got some old SPD pedals around somewhere, so that should get him up and running. I think his feet are gonna be too big for the selection that DMT have got, but not quite big enough to use any of the shoes I've got lying around.

This thread's also making me realise I need to do a huge clearout of bike stuff soon...

In other news, I've ordered the 5800 groupset from Merlin, as they let me specify type of BB (always handy to have a spare).

Edit: Oh and I'm thinking these wheels might be a good choice.

As he's around 80ish kilos, I'm tempted to suggest he/I asks CN*carbon for custom drilling, 24h 2 cross front or something, rather than the 20h radial front wheel.

Those wheels are for racing though, you want as few spokes as possible.

I think the Deda stem would be perfect at that height; it may need a thin spacer on top to give a few mm space between the steerer bung and the top cap.

THose wheels are cheap! I was going to suggest Wheelsfar/Farsports but they're nearly double the price.

Fair point. You think radial 20h will be strong enough?

Could always use double butted spokes rather than bladed.

yeah it will be fine

Right, wheels (the cn*carbon ones upthread) have been bought.

If this was my build I think I'd have spent a lot longer deliberating about parts and generally would've been much more in favour of waiting for amazing deals on all the bits, with the build taking months and everything being agonised over.

As it is, he wants to start riding it asap so it looks like I've now got everything ordered. If all goes well, it should all be here by the weekend.

My only concern is that the cosine wheels are being delivered by yodel, so there's always the chance that the Chinese carbons will be here before them...

It's here!

The plan was to build it at the weekend, but pretty much everything's turned up except seatpost and bar tape.

We've now got as far as we can get, but the groupset didn't come with cable end things for the brake outers, so can't fit the rear brake cable yet. Also, haven't fitted the chain yet as I'm gonna dig out a quicklink rather than the stupid Shimano pin.

Pics to follow!

So it's done.

Sorry, I didn't really take any build pics... Terrible build thread eh?

Gonna have to wait until my brother's about so I can get the front mech cable taut before doing it up, as it is I've fully extended the inline adjuster and still haven't got quite enough tension on it.

Oh and I was really impressed by Merlin, Ribble and Wiggle's delivery times, but rather disappointed that the order I placed with CRC on Sunday night didn't arrive until today (free delivery, obvs).

Pleased with the Pro Tharsis seatpost for a tenner. Feels quality and clamp isn't as stupid as some.

Oh and 5800 seems great, way better than 5700.

Shakedown ride is tomorrow so I'll report back on whether or not it falls apart.

That looks good built up. What's the weight?

Not a clue, but it's quite light. I might try the standing on scales with the bike and without trick if I can be arsed to go upstairs and get 'em... :)

PS - thanks for getting it in the post so quick, should've given you a mention! You're officially better than CRC and wiggle :)

8.5kg with the above method. I'm not quite sure i believe that...

that looks proper. get him to sack off the tri nonsense and take it racing

Yeah, join the disc brakes r dead club!

Don't encourage him :)

PS - the bike didn't explode, but the 130mm stem is too long. Stuck a shitty 110mm selcof on there now to see if that's better. I'll look for something fancier once he's sure it's the right size. I'll try to get a proper pic of it soon.