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My 800 is way better than the 810 I sent back. But the 1000 is better than both.
But yes, Wahoo have an actual living, breathing, listening software development group which is what appeals to me. I just don't want the hassle of learning another device's quirks just now.
Bluetooth? umadbro?! I never enable that shit. No BT, no wifi, no automatically syncing shit with shit. Because apart from battery drain, if there's one thing I know, it's that the more features that more chance Garmin devs have fucked it up or will fuck it up.
Powermeters ANT+ mostly so shouldn't be an issue with Wahoo. I've just not spent any time investigating and at £250 I'm not prepared to 'test' one.
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Yes, I picked up an 810 cheap, but it turns out it's not really an upgrade at all. I was about to ebay it and start keeping an eye out for a cheap 2nd hand 1000 on ebay, but I think I'd like to go with a different company on principle.
Battery drain is less of an issue for me (because I'm slow anyway so don't really care about running it off a hub dynamo all the time). But the idea of being able to control a device via phone does appeal because I'm not always near a computer when I want to upload routes or whatever.
The only negative stuff I found about Elemnts online seemed to be people complaining about power meter issues. But that was earlier on so suspect they've been resolved. Plus think it might have been non-standard power meters too.
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Just do what @amey said, and you can test it:
Buy direct from them, they have a rapha style no questions asked 30 day returns you just have to send the box back to Belgium.
Loving mine so far. The turn by turn on routes from RWGPS seem solid. I've only been out on one 70km route with it but it worked flawlessly for me first time. I was at least expecting a few hiccups while I learn the device - nothing yet.
I for one would be really interested to hear how it copes with you mental audax types :)
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I previously had an 800, now have an 810. I'm actually pretty good at dealing with Garmin's quirks - I've got workarounds for all those issues (such as splitting up routes like you say). I have just come to the conclusion that it'd be nice to deal with a product where you don't have to find workarounds all the time. From what I've gathered online, Wahoo are a lot more interested in listening to their users than Garmin are.
When I got the 810 I thought it'd be nice to be able to quickly upload an audax GPX route from my phone to the Garmin via bluetooth. Which seemed like it should be pretty straightforward. After a bit of searching on the Garmin forums, this appears to be the ridiculously convoluted process. https://forums.garmin.com/showthread.php?368038-How-to-import-gpx-or-tcx-files-as-courses-in-Garmin-Connect&p=938451#post938451
Which just means I won't bother. Which isn't hugely important as it's not at all essential, but is why i'm thinking I might prefer to switch to a different company altogether.
It seems you can use all the standard Garmin ANT sensors with the Wahoo as well, so I wouldn't need to buy those again. But I presume you've got power meter type stuff to deal with, which I suspect is more complex.