Theres a NEW Dolan seta

Stopping making the original Seta he means.

I should never post anything before I've had a coffee. Thanks for clearing that up.

I know the feeling

Anybody able to compare it to a DF4? Does the seta flex notably more?

BB and chainstay flex - very comfy.

Never ridden a Seta but I have the DF4 and use it at the track. I do go to and from the track with DF4 and is a VERY VERY harsh ride, stiff AF. If you are contemplating getting a DF4 for anything other than track use keep in mind this info :)

One of the most comfy frames...

Thinking of the DF4 as a track specific build, I want two bikes build up for track and street. Right now one bike seves it all.

Optically I find the Seta more intriguing, it looks sleeker. But it also looks flexier, due to the overall thinner tubes&stuff. Hence the question if the Seta is track worthy.

Tbh if I had to buy a track specific frameset today it wouldn't be the DF4, it would be the new Avanti Pista Team Frameset. It's the same price of the DF4, it's used by the NZ team (so you know that it has being battle tested), the dropouts are HUGE, you can have a crazy amount of gearing. And I would totally use the Seta for the street if I had the money to spend.

Did the tyre clearance debate ever get settled?
Is it really 23mm max or has a larger clearance been proven?

Most likely you can fit 25mm, but as it’s a well known flexy frame, you don’t really want to get the tyre too close to the chainstays.
You’ll end up grinding carbon away.

You can easily run 28s